http://hotair.com/archives/2013/11/07/uh-oh-hhs-still-discovering-new-bugs-in-obamacare-website-as-known-ones-are-fixed/
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-06/very-low-obamacare-enrollment-exposed-young-people-just-say-no
Uh oh: HHS still discovering new bugs in ObamaCare website as known ones are fixed
POSTED AT 5:21 PM ON NOVEMBER 7, 2013 BY ALLAHPUNDIT
A “tech surge” update via Ezra Klein’s Wonkblog. Spoiler: Sebelius’s “important announcement” tomorrow isn’t going to be “we fixed it.”
Today’s “Operational Update on the Health Insurance Marketplace” was not especially good news: As capacity problems at the start of HealthCare.gov get fixed, tech workers are finding new capacity problems later in the application process — ones that, up until now, they didn’t know about.“Essentially what is happening is people are going through the entire process,” Medicare spokeswoman Julie Bataille, who runs the daily call, told reporters. “As we have fixed certain pieces of functionality, like the account creation process, we’re seeing volume go further down the application. We’re identifying new issues that we need to be in a position to troubleshoot.”That means that, as the HealthCare.gov team ticks items off its “punch list,” it’s also adding new ones that need to be addressed.
Could be that I’m misunderstanding but that makes it sound like they focused on fixing the account creation process, a.k.a. the front end of the site, before they’ve fixed the back-end part that relays applicants’ information to insurers. Bob Laszewski, the health industry expert who’s emerged as a lead critic of the site, told Klein in an interview a few weeks ago that it’d be disastrous to repair the front end before the “834 transactions” on the back end were repaired. Many of those 834s are garbled or incomplete; the only thing that’s making them manageable right now is the fact that there are so few of them trickling in due to website problems that insurers have the time and manpower to clean them up. The front-end problems are basically a dam holding back a reservoir of tainted/screwed-up information. Fix them first and the dam will break before the reservoir’s been decontaminated/debugged.
Maybe they have fixed the 834 process and are now systematically cleaning up the application system so that enrollments can begin en masse. If so, though, I haven’t heard a word of it — and that would be something that O-Care fans, Klein and company foremost among them, would want to tout as shining proof that the tech surge is making strides. Laszewski published a status update about Healthcare.gov a few days ago on his own blog based on what his industry sources are telling him and claimed that progress in fixing the 834 problem is “incremental and nowhere near enough to be able to go to high volume processing,” leaving his sources pessimistic that HHS can possibly get this done by December 1. But then, that’s sort of the point of today’s Wonkblog piece — because they’re discovering more errors as they clean others up, there’s no reason to think they’re making any meaningful progress. As one to-do item gets checked off, another gets written in. Makes me wonder how much longer Obama will leave Senate Democrats out there to twist in the wind before breaking the news that December 1 just isn’t happening.
Via the Right Scoop, here’s Laszewski telling Megyn Kelly last night that he expects 80 percent of the individual insurance market to receive cancellation notices.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-06/very-low-obamacare-enrollment-exposed-young-people-just-say-no
"Very Low" Obamacare Enrollment Admitted As Young People Just Say No
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 11/06/2013 17:27 -0500
For the first time today, in addition to previous anecdotal evidence that the first several days of the Obamacare rollout (with 248 enrollees in the first two days) have been an abysmal failure, and the days since have fared no better, HHS Secretary Sebelius finally admitted to the Senate Finance Committee that over a month after the rollout of healthcare.gov, the enrollment figures have been "very low." Of course, being able to qualify the number didn't mean she could or would actually put it in numeric terms - it would have been simply too humiliating and may have forced her to finally do what so far nobody in the Obama administration has done: take responsibility for one after another failure (after all, for everything else, there's "Mr. Chairwoman getting to work") and resign. One thing, however, is certain, the "very low" number whatever it may be, is orders of magnitude below Obama's mission critical goal of enrolling 494,620 people in October, and another 706,600 for November.
Why is this critical? Because like any other Ponzi, this particular welfare program needs an influx of new registrants, especially young ones, to keep the funding coming in and succeed. Otherwise, not even all central bank chairmen getting to work around the globe creating wealth effects for a few hundred thousand people, or all false-flag, YouTube justified diversionary wars around the world, will do much to deflect attention from how the supposedly crowning achievement of Obama's two-term presidential career has disintegrated before everyone's eyes.
Politico has more on Sebelius' testimony before the Senate Finance Committee:
“We intend to give you as much information as we can validate,” Sebelius said of the enrollment figures being released next week. She said the numbers will include both Medicaid and health plan enrollment in the new insurance exchanges. She said the numbers will cover “the first month of enrollment,” which began on Oct. 1.
She also intends to give more figures that she can fabricate but that is neither here nor there. All that matters is that she has her job. Kinda like Greece and the Euro.
Curiously it was not just republicans crucifying the HHS Secretary...
Republicans chastised Sebelius for what they called misleading testimony that the website would be working when it went live Oct. 1, and a broken promise that consumers could keep their coverage.Sen. Pat Roberts, a Republican from Sebelius’s home state of Kansas, repeated his call for her to resign because of her poor leadership. Sebelius did not respond.The top Republican on the committee, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), said Sebelius’s earlier testimony to the committee about the website’s readiness was “at best, misinformed.” He predicted more problems ahead and called for Sebelius to visit the committee once a month with status updates.Several Republicans questioned the security and testing of the website, but Sebelius said that neither security consultants nor the administration felt those concerns warranted halting enrollment.“No one suggested the risks outweighed the importance of moving forward,” she said, “including Mitre, who made recommendations to CMS as is required.” Mitre is a federally-funded nonprofit that handles much of the marketplace’s security.
... it was democrats as well - supposedly those facing stiff competition in the upcoming elections.
In the Finance committee, Democrats expressed vast “frustration” with the website. But they also had harsh words for the contracters tasked with building HealthCare.gov.“I want you to burn their fingers and make them pay for not being responsible,” Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) told the secretary.
Just don't burn your own Madame Secretary: after all it is well-known that in Obama's administration the buck never stops with whoever is in charge - you see, they were never aware of the failures, ever. They only had full supervision over the successes, if any.
Of course, she wouldn't work for Obama if she didn't end it on a Hopiumy note:
Sebelius told the committee that the site will be repaired by the end of the month amid a “couple of hundred” functional fixes that have been identified. “We are into the list but we are not where we need to be,” she said. She also said the experts who have looked at the site and its problems have advised making repairs, not taking the site down completely.
Well, maybe not hopiumy enough.
But going back to the original issue, and a far deeper problem with Obamacare than the ongoing website debacle, is that the targeted core constituency of Obamacare, young people under 35, are nowhere near the fastest enrolling population group, with that distinction instead going to the oldest group, people 55 and over, which also happens the be the biggest use of funds within Obamacare. From the WSJ:
Insurers say the early buyers of health coverage on the nation's troubled new websites are older than expected so far, raising early concerns about the economics of the insurance marketplaces.If the trend continues, an older, more expensive set of customers could drive up prices for everyone, the insurers say, by forcing them to spread their costs around. "We need a broad range of people to make this work, and we're not seeing that right now," said Heather Thiltgen of Medical Mutual of Ohio, the state's largest insurer by individual customers. "We're seeing the population skewing older."...the numbers demonstrate a real-world fallout from the digital snafus: Less-healthy customers are more likely to persevere through technical obstacles to gain coverage, insurers say. Younger, healthier customers who feel less need for insurance—but whose widespread participation is important to the financial success of the system—could be quicker to give up.
Naturally, the central-planners had a response ready for this too:
A White House official said the Obama administration expects most young, healthy enrollees to wait until the last minute to sign up, citing research showing that pattern when Massachusetts embarked on a similar health overhaul in 2007. People have until Dec. 15 to enroll in coverage starting Jan. 1, with open enrollment for coverage during the year lasting through next March.
Because, you see, young people are so busy watching the Kardashians, working part-time jobs (if they are lucky), and hunting the rats in their parents' basement, they just can't afford to figure out how to complete a sign up form.
Finally, even assuming all these quirks are resolved, the worst case as most know by now, is that Obamacare is actually launched albeit with a several month delay. Because the hit to broader discretionary income will be so big, the Fed will have no choice but to engage in precisely the kind of NGDP targeting, read literal paradropping of cash, that we said would happen over a month ago now that the central bank's back is against the wall and nothing else has worked so far.
Panic City among Dems......
Panic room: Frustrated Senate Dems up for reelection next year meet with Obama, Biden over ObamaCare debacle
POSTED AT 6:01 PM ON NOVEMBER 6, 2013 BY ALLAHPUNDIT
Jeff Zients, the new tech czar in charge of repairing Healthcare.gov, was there too. Here’s another reason why I feel no schadenfreude over Obama voters having their plans canceled. I need to save all my schadenfreude for stories like this.
The meeting ran two full hours. Details are vague but I can guess what the main topic was. Tick tock.
The lawmakers’ chief concerns centered on getting the website repaired – even for lawmakers from states where the exchange is working – and ensuring that the data consumers submit is secure.Many of them backed delaying the open enrollment period because of the problems, but administration did not indicate it wanted to do so, a source said…The members at the meeting were Mark Begich of Alaska, Cory Booker of New Jersey, Chris Coons of Delaware, Dick Durbin of Illinois, Al Franken of Minnesota, Kay Hagan of North Carolina, Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Jeff Merkley of Oregon, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Jack Reed of Rhode Island, Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire, Brian Schatz of Hawaii, Mark Udall of Colorado, Tom Udall of New Mexico, Mark Warner of Virginia and Michael Bennet of Colorado, according to Senate aides and the White House…All senators except for Bennet are up for re-election in 2014; Bennet is the chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.
Roll Call has some enjoyable excerpts from the blustery statements released afterward by people like Begich and Udall, who are now desperate to signal their outrageously outrageous outrage over O-Care’s rollout to voters back home before the torches and pitchforks come out. I’m intrigued that they’re still pushing the idea of extending the enrollment period next year. In a sense, that jibes with what Sebelius said at this morning’s hearing about not wanting to leave people without coverage any longer; the longer you make the enrollment period, the greater the opportunity for people to sign up. Problem is, extended enrollment will compound the adverse selection problem facing insurers. You don’t want to give healthy people any reason to wait to enroll; you need them in the pool ASAP to help pay for the sick. That’s the whole point of having a mandate. If you extend enrollment, not only do you reduce the pressure on the healthy to enroll, you lengthen the time allowed next year for the newly sick and injured to get coverage to pay for their treatment. That’s the real reason Sebelius is nervous about tweaking the law’s timetable. There’s major risk to the industry in doing it — and yet here are Democratic incumbents ready to do it anyway in the name of saving their own asses. I wonder how long it’ll be before the White House and Senate Dems are openly fighting over whether to delay/extend or not. See why I save my schadenfreude?
But back to the big question: How much longer until the website’s fixed? The end of November is D-Day. Obama assured Democrats in today’s meeting that it’ll be ready and Democratic aides have been mumbling their agreement to reporters when asked, but there’s good reason not to trust the guy responsible for “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan.” Via James Taranto, here’s an insightful interview with a risk-management expert who agrees with the vast consensus that the new target date’s just not realistic:
Jones: Last week, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius assured her inquisitors at a congressional hearing that her department has brought in experts that have a handle on the problems the site is facing. How confident should we be in Sebelius’ assurances?Charette: Not very. They’re talking about dozens and dozens of items on their punch list—both in terms of functionality and performance issues. They’ve got just over 30 days to get through the list. Let’s just say that there are 30 items on it. What do you think is the actual probability of getting through testing them, making sure that the system works end to end and that there are no security holes all in a single month? How do you expect to get that done, knowing that every time you make a fix, there’s a high probability that you’re going to introduce an error somewhere else?Jones: Let’s spin this forward a bit. How do you think this next month will actually go?Charette: They said that they needed five weeks at the minimum to test it, and they’re still making all these changes. Where will that five-week window fit? If they had stopped right then and tested it for five weeks, they wouldn’t have been able to finish on time. And five weeks was probably the absolute minimum they needed, assuming everything worked. They’re patching the system as they go along and as Sebelius admitted, they’re doing very local unit tests (which, by the way, is what got them into this mess in the first place, with each contractor saying, “Well, my stuff works”). If they discover something major, they may have to run the whole system test again.
Even if they made it functional by December, Charette thinks security will suffer to the point that “it would be very surprising if there isn’t some type of breach, either at the federal or state level, by this time next year.” Security was, in fact, the focus of Mark Udall’s statement after today’s meeting. He knows what’s coming and is doing what he can to distance himself now.
Oh, by the way, and not coincidentally: Healthcare.gov’s chief tech guy is now quietly out of a job. Here’s Max Baucus at today’s hearing reminding Sebelius in full view of the cameras that he expects her to keep her promise to have this thing up and running by November 30th. Tick tock.
Morning all,
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