Boston rewind...... Consider these possibilities / issues / contradictions carefully :
1) Regarding the older brother , there is no evidence that he actually placed the second bomb ( with the various cameras , if there was evidence , we would have been shown same by now ) ;
2) Regarding the younger brother , the patsey placed his backpack but whatever he thought was in the back pack , was not a functional bomb - and is is back pack still visible in the aftermath photos ;
3) If the older brother didn't or couldn't have been in place to place the second bomb , then someone else placed the second bomb - clearly a second bomb went off , right :
4) Let's talk about the biggest dog that didn't bark and why the younger brother as bomber theory is questionable - the younger brother has a WHITE back pack , yet the photos of the bomb packs that were containers of the bombs were BLACK . Is the theory the back pack of the younger brother ( still visible in the aftermath photo ) , somewhat changed color ? Strange ;
5) What about the black back packs carried by the ear plug wearing Contractors - doesn't one exploded black back pack have the same marking as packs carried by the Contractors ? Moreover , the design of the Contractors bag is notably different from the older brother's black back pack anyway - check the photos folks , !
And.....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/29/tsarnaev-right-to-counsel-denied
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=220196
( So a third person had to be involved in Boston , we know learn.... so , where is this person ? )
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-29/female-dna-found-boston-bomb
( third person could be female ? )
http://beforeitsnews.com/blogging-citizen-journalism/2013/04/fbi-caught-in-their-own-timeline-trap-2447044.html
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1) Regarding the older brother , there is no evidence that he actually placed the second bomb ( with the various cameras , if there was evidence , we would have been shown same by now ) ;
2) Regarding the younger brother , the patsey placed his backpack but whatever he thought was in the back pack , was not a functional bomb - and is is back pack still visible in the aftermath photos ;
3) If the older brother didn't or couldn't have been in place to place the second bomb , then someone else placed the second bomb - clearly a second bomb went off , right :
4) Let's talk about the biggest dog that didn't bark and why the younger brother as bomber theory is questionable - the younger brother has a WHITE back pack , yet the photos of the bomb packs that were containers of the bombs were BLACK . Is the theory the back pack of the younger brother ( still visible in the aftermath photo ) , somewhat changed color ? Strange ;
5) What about the black back packs carried by the ear plug wearing Contractors - doesn't one exploded black back pack have the same marking as packs carried by the Contractors ? Moreover , the design of the Contractors bag is notably different from the older brother's black back pack anyway - check the photos folks , !
And.....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/29/tsarnaev-right-to-counsel-denied
Report: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's repeated requests for a lawyer were ignored
There is zero legal or ethical justification for denying a suspect in custody this fundamental right
(updated below)
The initial debate over the treatment of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev focused on whether he should be advised of his Miranda rights or whether the "public safety exception" justified delaying it. In the wake of news reports that he had been Mirandized and would be charged in a federal court, I credited the Obama DOJ for handling the case reasonably well thus far. As it turns out, though, Tsarnaev wasn't Mirandized because the DOJ decided he should be. Instead, that happened only because a federal magistrate, on her own, scheduled a hospital-room hearing, interrupted the FBI's interrogation which had been proceeding at that point for a full 16 hours, and advised him of his right to remain silent and appointed him a lawyer. Since then, Tsarnaev ceased answering the FBI's questions.
But that controversy was merely about whether he would be advised of his Miranda rights. Now, the Los Angeles Times, almost in passing, reports something which, if true, would be a much more serious violation of core rights than delaying Miranda warnings - namely, that prior to the magistrate's visit to his hospital room, Tsarnaev had repeatedly asked for a lawyer, but the FBI simply ignored those requests, instead allowing the interagency High Value Detainee Interrogation Group to continue to interrogate him alone:
"Tsarnaev has not answered any questions since he was given a lawyer and told he has the right to remain silent by Magistrate Judge Marianne B. Bowler on Monday, officials said."Until that point, Tsarnaev had been responding to the interagency High Value Detainee Interrogation Group, including admitting his role in the bombing, authorities said.A senior congressional aide said Tsarnaev had asked several times for a lawyer, but that request was ignored since he was being questioned under the public safety exemption to the Miranda rule."
Delaying Miranda warnings under the "public safety exception" - including under the Obama DOJ's radically expanded version of it - is one thing. But denying him the right to a lawyer after he repeatedly requests one is another thing entirely: as fundamental a violation of crucial guaranteed rights as can be imagined. As the lawyer bmaz comprehensively details in this excellent post, it is virtually unheard of for the "public safety" exception to be used to deny someone their right to a lawyer as opposed to delaying a Miranda warning (the only cases where this has been accepted were when "the intrusion into the constitutional right to counsel
... was so fleeting – in both it was no more than a question or two about a weapon on the premises of a search while the search warrant was actively being executed"). To ignore the repeated requests of someone in police custody for a lawyer, for hours and hours, is just inexcusable and legally baseless.
As law school dean Erwin Chemerinsky explained in the Los Angeles Times last week, the Obama DOJ was already abusing the "public safety" exception by using it to delay Miranda warnings for hours, long after virtually every public official expressly said that there were no more threats to the public safety. As he put it: "this exception does not apply here because there was no emergency threat facing law enforcement." Indeed, as I documented when this issue first arose, the Obama DOJ already unilaterally expanded this exception far beyond what the Supreme Court previously recognized by simply decreeing (in secret) that terrorism cases justify much greater delays in Mirandizing a suspect for reasons well beyond asking about public safety.
But that debate was merely about whether Tsarnaev would be advised of his rights. This is much more serious: if the LA Times report is true, then it means that the DOJ did not merely fail to advise him of his right to a lawyer but actively blocked him from exercising that right. This is a US citizen arrested for an alleged crime on US soil: there is no justification whatsoever for denying him his repeatedly exercised right to counsel. And there are ample and obvious dangers in letting the government do this. That's why Marcy Wheeler was arguing from the start that whether Tsarnaev would be promptly presented to a federal court - as both the Constitution and federal law requires - is more important than whether he is quickly Mirandized. Even worse, if the LA Times report is accurate, it means that the Miranda delay as well as the denial of his right to a lawyer would have continued even longer had the federal magistrate not basically barged into the interrogation to advise him of his rights.
I'd like to see more sources for this than a single anonymous Congressional aide, though the LA Times apparently concluded that this source's report was sufficiently reliable. The problem is that we're unlikely to get much transparency on this issue because to the extent that national politicians in Washington are complaining about Tsarnaev's treatment, their concern is that his rights were not abused even further:
"Lawmakers were told Tsarnaev had been questioned for 16 hours over two days. Injured in the throat, he was answering mostly in writing."'For those of us who think the public safety exemption properly applies here, there are legitimate questions about why he was [brought before a judge] when he was,' said Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Burbank), a former federal prosecutor who serves on the House Intelligence Committee."Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), chairman of the committee, wrote Atty. Gen. Eric H. Holder Jr. asking for a full investigation of the matter, complaining that the court session 'cut off a lawful, ongoing FBI interview to collect public safety information.'"
So now the Washington "debate" is going to be whether (a) the Obama DOJ should have defied the efforts of the federal court to ensure Tsarnaev's rights were protected and instead just violated his rights for even longer than it did, or (b) the Obama DOJ violated his rights for a sufficient amount of time before "allowing" a judge into his hospital room. That it is wrong to take a severely injured 19-year-old US citizen and aggressively interrogate him in the hospital without Miranda rights, without a lawyer, and (if this report is true) actively denying him his repeatedly requested rights, won't even be part of that debate. As Dean Chemerinsky wrote:
"Throughout American history, whenever there has been a serious threat, people have proposed abridging civil liberties. When that has happened, it has never been shown to have made the country safer. These mistakes should not be repeated. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev should be investigated, prosecuted and tried in accord with the US Constitution."
There is no legal or ethical justification for refusing the request for someone in custody to have a lawyer present. If this report is true, what's most amazing is not that his core rights were so brazenly violated, but that so few people in Washington will care. They're too busy demanding that his rights should have been violated even further.
UPDATE
In March of last year, the New York Times' Editorial Page Editor, Andrew Rosenthal - writing under the headline "Liberty and Justice for Non-Muslims" - explained: "it's rarely acknowledged that the [9/11] attacks have also led to what's essentially a separate justice system for Muslims." Even if you're someone who has decided that you don't really care about (or will actively support) rights abridgments as long as they are applied to groups or individuals who you think deserve it, these violations always expand beyond their original application. If you cheer when Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's right to counsel is denied, then you're enabling the institutionalization of that violation, and thus ensuring that you have no basis or ability to object when that right is denied to others whom you find more sympathetic (including yourself).
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=220196
( So a third person had to be involved in Boston , we know learn.... so , where is this person ? )
Ok, Where's The Third Guy?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-29/female-dna-found-boston-bomb
( third person could be female ? )
Female DNA Found On Boston Bomb
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 04/29/2013 17:13 -0400
Earlier today we heard unsubstantiated chatter that FBI agents were in front of the house of Katherine Russell in North Kingstown, widow of the dead bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev. Moments ago we got an explanation for this. The WSJ reports that "investigators have found female DNA on at least one of the bombs used in the Boston Marathon attacks, though they haven't determined whose DNA it is or whether that means a woman helped the two suspects carry out the attacks, according to U.S. officials briefed on the probe. The officials familiar with the case cautioned that there could be multiple explanations for why the DNA of someone other than the two bombing suspects—Tamerlan Tsarnaev and his younger brother, Dzhokhar—could have been found on remnants of the exploded devices. The genetic material could have come, for example, from a store clerk who handled materials used in the bombs or a stray hair that ended up in the bomb."
More from the WSJ:
On Monday, Federal Bureau of Investigation agents were seen leaving the Rhode Island home of the parents of Katherine Russell, the widow of Tamerlan Tsarnaev. The elder brother died after a shootout with police four days after the April 15 bombings.Ms. Russell has been staying with her parents since the bombings, and FBI agents have been seen posted outside the home since her late husband was identified as one of the bombers. Her lawyer has said she is "doing everything she can to assist with the investigation."One official familiar with the case said agents went to the house Monday to collect a DNA sample from Ms. Russell, the culmination of days of negotiations. FBI officials also have been negotiating with Ms. Russell's attorney in recent days to get fuller access to question her, the officials familiar with the case said. The officials briefed on the investigation said the DNA request was needed to determine whether it matched the DNA found on the bomb remnants.Ms. Russell is one of as many as a half-dozen people in whom investigators are interested as they seek to determine if the brothers had any help in the bomb attack or the days afterward, the officials said. Ms. Russell's lawyer didn't immediately respond to a request for comment about the latest developments.
Well if there was one specific group in society that had so far evaded persecution over recent events surrounding the Boston bombing, and other recent social risk flarings, it was women.
It looks like it is time to close the loop on that.
http://beforeitsnews.com/blogging-citizen-journalism/2013/04/fbi-caught-in-their-own-timeline-trap-2447044.html
FBI Caught In Their Own Timeline Trap
Friday, April 26, 2013 18:42
The following story came in to Beforeitsnews from a very concerned American, quite possibly within the law enforcement community. Do with this information what you will. This email has been copied and pasted below unedited by Beforeitsnews. The implications are profound.
The reason the FBI have not released security camera footage of suspect (at FORUM 755 Boylston Street) is because there are multiple security cameras trained on that location and it is exceedingly difficult to convincingly photo shop their fairytale from multiple angles:
1. on Lord and Taylor building corner
2. multiple cameras across the street on the !st Republic Bank
3. the traffic camera with the best view and the closest on the traffic light pole/bar inter(t)section Boylston and Ring Road
4. god knows how many others
…there are praying everyone sent in their photos and nobody is hold out waiting to pounce on them fabricating evidence…THAT IS WHY IT IS TAKING SO LONG.
MINDFUL THE FIRST BOMB WENT OFF PRIOR TO 14:50 (AND THE SECOND 20 SECONDS LATER)
14:37 Both brothers can be seen (time stamped security footage) coming onto Boylston Street from Gloucester Street ( they are blocks away from the finish and the sidewalk not clogged with spectators (walking at about 3MPH or 264 feet per minute)…
… they stop (about 125 feet after making the corner) in front of the Steak House (address 867 can be seen on the photos not cropped by the FBI) and loiter there until at least 14:45 according the the FBI.
… they were not watching the race as, rather they were admiring the open mezzanine (south) across the street while they talked to one another… the younger on the left (west) of the older a couple feet east of him.
… ODDLY, they are in the center of the original (uncropped) pictures left to right and top to bottom of the many pictures taken of them there (no one supposedly knew they were the future bombers at that time yet were across the street taking street level, not security camera, pictures of them?).
… Subsequent pictures, of them there, have been cropped to remove the address above and to the left of them as well as the plague and fire hydrant connections on the wall behind them (like the FBI Special Agent said, only look at the pictures we provide or you will be distracted… from the fable they are telling) to provide the illusion they were at the second bombing site (when they were not… and below is why, to pretend the Lord and Taylor security camera is filming them at the FORUM while the were actually together only at the Steak House a block further west… that is why the photo’s are being cropped ever smaller.
14:45 – the younger brother is photographed waking in front of the older and continues east on Boylston (headed east) in the direction of Fairfield Street (which he must cross to get to 755 Boylston, the FORUM (over 600 feet away). There are no pictures of them walking there together. The sidewalks are much more crowded the closer to the finish line (beyond Fairfield and Exeter Streets).
… walking at 3MPH it would take less than two minutes to get the FORUM (755 Boylston), the side walk is much more crowded the closer to the finish line one gets, so the younger brother was likely/lucky to make 2MPH (176 feet per minute) placing his arriving there ALONE at 14:47 (the reason there are no pictures of the older brother there). The older brother continues to loiter on the 800 block west of the younger brother and likely meandered towards the FORUM (scoping out the place or waiting for further instructions).
… mindful, its another 600 feet further east from the FORUM to the site of the first bombs (more on that below).
… there are no pictures of the older brother at the FORUM with the younger instead they communicate by phone and just before the younger starts walking west (having placed his pack on the ground on the east side of the tree) less than a minute before the bomb detonates he is photographed looking looking west neck stretched to see over the crowd and is smiling (upon seeing his brother) who never went any further east than that… that picture was taken at 14:49.
… the investigators cut down the tree (because the side that has damage is inconsistent with where they younger brother places his pack on the ground, the actual bomb was on the other side of the tree (that is the reason the father, mother, son and daughter were injured but the two girls right in front of the younger brothers back pack were not – they were shielded by the tree because the actual bomb was on the other side).
… there are no pictures of his brother passing through what would be the site of the second bomb, headed east to 699 Boylston (the address of the LensCrafter immediately behind the first bomb site)… nor are there any pictures of him headed west from the LensCrafter (before or after the second bomb exploded). That is until just before Fairfield Street (30 feet behind his brother in the iconic picture taken by David Green, and posted on his facebook page, of the younger rounding the corner of Boylston and Fairfield 125 feet west of the second bomb sight.
… there is not enough time for the older brother to have left 867 Boylston, after his brother at 14:45 and negotiate the crowded sidewalk over 1200 feet (one way) to the site of the first bomb (that exploded prior to 14:50) and be photographed 30 feet from the corner of Boylston and Fairfield behind his brother at 14: 51 after the bombs.
… the elder supposedly travelled 1200 feet east (walking nonchalantly) through ever increasing crowds, planted a bomb and then travelled 900 feet west (also walking nonchalantly)… 2100 feet in five minutes… before the bombs went off? Yet does not appear any pictures or video doing so. How many weeks will it take for the FBI to fabricate evidence of him being anywhere east of 755 Boylston… they have not presented any and its already been two weeks, photo shopping is hard.
The NYTIMES did a diagram of the bomb sites and show the first bomb was (told to them by the FBI) placed mid way between the road and the LensCrafters building (which is consistent with the explosion’s flash; but that doesn’t jibe with the detonation/burn mark a couple feet from the building as far away from the door as possible in the debris photos (clearly nothing fell into that spot as it was the spot of detonation, no broken glass etc); and then after they hosed down the sidewalk there is a chalk “blast seat” drawn on the ground a couple feet from the road.
… Oddly Paragraph #7 of the charging document issued by investigators and presented to the court and media state the first bomb was placed in front of 671 (the building next door to the the LensCrafter at 699? Which begs the question, was there a forth bomb at the site of the first explosion (because they clearly have indicated there were three burn marks in front of the LensCrafter store… and how many pressure cooker bombs can you carry in a single back pack?
… How did the older brother know to dress like the Homeland Security/FBI/SEAL teams there all had tan pants, black jackets, black backpacks, several wearing black ball caps with a large white logo centered on it (the good guys? wore the white skull recognized as either seal team three and blackwateresque contractors)… just a coincidence. Then again the suspected bomber’s back pack is not actually black nor does it match the thread count of the one touted as the one that contained one of the bombs (the FBI guys are wearing actual black back packs).
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