Saturday, January 12, 2013

Second Amendment bum's rush watch - as we wait for Biden's recommendations to the President , as we wait for the Feinstein Bill that has no prayer of exiting the Senate presently ( ponder whether we see another mass shooting event between now and the end of the month ) , the spinning continues regarding gun control....... be very wary when the government says it's here to help you !


http://www.infowars.com/ny-state-senator-gun-bill-passed-in-middle-of-night-turns-law-abiding-citizens-into-criminals/


NY State Senator: Gun Bill Passed In Middle Of Night ‘Turns Law-abiding Citizens Into Criminals’

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“Members were forced to vote on a bill they had not read”

Steve Watson
Infowars.com
Jan 15, 2013
A New York State Senator has lambasted the passing of what is being called the nation’s toughest gun control bill, saying that it was introduced during the middle of the night, and that members were forced to vote on the legislation when they had not even had a chance to read it.
“I simply cannot support a bill that turns law abiding citizens into criminals by creating an entire new category of illegal firearms out of currently legal rifles and shotguns,” said Senator Greg Ball in astatement.
“…the last minute push, in the middle of the night without critical public input from sportsmen and taxpayers was outrageous and forced members to vote on a bill they had not read.” Ball noted.
The Senator stated that he believed the bill does nothing to address the issue of mental illness, and gave specific examples of cases within his district, which he urged that the legislation would not help to improve in any way.
“We haven’t saved any lives tonight, except one: the political life of a governor who wants to be president,” the Senator said on the Senate floor, in reference to Governor Andrew Cuomo.
Ball added that he believed the NY Senate was willing to transform law-abiding citizens into criminals “hoping on the front pages that we will be seen as preventing tragedies.”

“Good night, I voted no and I only wish I could have done it twice.” Ball concluded.
Watch Ball’s comments below:
Senator John J. Bonacic, who also opposed the legislation, called it “nothing more than window dressing designed to make people feel secure until the next tragedy strikes – all while criminalizing the actions of otherwise law abiding citizens.”
In prepared comments, Bonacic noted ” In reading the summary of the legislation provided (my comments below are based on how the legislation has been explained, because the print of the bill has not been shown to Legislators as I write this – 8 PM on January 14), it appears law abiding citizens would become criminals – eligible to be sent to jail, simply by failing to tell the government they own guns they lawfully purchased.”
“Equally problematic is the provision in the legislation prohibiting more than seven rounds in a ten round magazine – something irrelevant to a criminal.” Bonacic also stated.
“Under the legislation, magazines people now own, which are capable of holding ten rounds (bullets) continue to be legal, but a person may only load seven rounds in them. It strains credibility to believe a criminal bent on a massacre is going to load only seven bullets in a ten round magazine. Law abiding citizens, on the other hand, who erroneously load too many bullets in a magazine, would be criminals under the legislation.” the Senator concluded.
The bill was debated in closed door meetings, and if adopted by the New York State Assembly it will see enforced limits on magazines, mandatory license renewal for gun owners every five years, stiffer penalties for bringing guns on school property or using a gun to commit a crime and further restrictions on guns that have been termed “assault weapons”.
“Under current state law, assault weapons are defined by having two ‘military rifle’ features spelled out in the law. The proposal would reduce that to one feature and include the popular pistol grip,” CBS reports.
Private sales of assault weapons to someone other than an immediate family member would be subject to a background check through a dealer. Also, Internet sales of assault weapons would be banned, and failing to safely store a weapon could be subject to a misdemeanor charge.
Ammunition magazines would be restricted to seven bullets, from the current 10, and current owners of higher-capacity magazines would have a year to sell them out of state. An owner caught at home with eight or more bullets in a magazine could face a misdemeanor charge.
Other provisions would see therapists required to report to the State perceived threats of gun violence by “mental health” patients. Those patients could then have their guns confiscated under the law.
Cuomo told reporters, without providing specifics, that the reason the legislation was being pushed through quickly was to avoid a potential run on sales of such weapons.
When the votes were tallied last night, the bill was overwhelmingly approved 43-18.
Senator Patty Ritchie another of the 18 to vote no on the bill, stated “…attempts to restrict legal ownership and possession of firearms from responsible sportsmen – rather than focusing on criminals – will not enhance the safety of our communities, and deprives law-abiding citizens of an important right under the Constitution of the United States.”
Senator James L. Seward added “For the first time, New York will be registering rifles and confiscating private property. We will do background checks on the simple purchase of a box of .22 ammo for squirrel hunting or target practice. Someone who puts eight cartridges in his magazine instead of seven will be a felon. Sadly, these extreme, harsh measures won’t stop criminals from getting guns and using them for illegal purposes.”
“These reactionary laws force new, onerous regulations on those who meticulously obey the law and infringe on Second Amendment rights… further impeding the rights of law-abiding citizens does nothing to confront gun violence.” Seward added.
Saying that he believed the Constitution should be “strictly construed in a manner consistent with the intent of our nation’s founding fathers,” Senator Lee M. Zeldin, who also voted against the bill noted:
“In our Constitution are certain rights which provide the foundation of America’s greatness. Its Second Amendment in no uncertain terms guarantees the right of law abiding citizens to keep and bear arms. Its purpose was not so much about hunting as it was for a deeper and much more important consideration of our founding fathers. The inspiration for this protection rose out of a fundamental mistrust of government.”
“Our great nation was founded on the idea that all people have certain inalienable rights. Our founding fathers understood that these rights were not granted by the government and therefore, shall not be removed by it either.” Zeldin stated.
The traditional three-day waiting period for a bill’s adoption is being waived by the Democrat-controlled Assembly, again citing a need to rush the bill through to avoid a rush on gun purchases. The Assembly is expected to approve the bill today without hesitation, paving the way for similar gun control measures on a national scale.
The president has said he is weighing as many as 19 different gun control measures that he could take without congressional approval, via executive order.









http://hotair.com/archives/2013/01/15/video-reid-backing-away-from-assault-weapons-ban/


Video: Reid backing away from assault-weapons ban?

POSTED AT 8:01 AM ON JANUARY 15, 2013 BY ED MORRISSEY

 
The possibility of passing a renewal of the 1994 assault-weapons ban looks even more remote after an appearance on a Nevada PBS interview.  Saying that everyone needs to “be cool and cautious,” Reid insisted that the answer to Newtown needs to be more comprehensive than just weapons restrictions — and wants to wait to see what Obama will do “administratively” before passing any new laws:
“The Second Amendment is something that was adhered to by Hubert Humphrey, John Kennedy,” Reid said. “So I don’t think anyone wants to diminish the Second Amendment, but I think everyone should just take a deep breath and realize where we are and where we need to go.
“We have too much violence in our society, and it’s not just from guns. It’s from a lot of stuff. and i think we should take a look at TV, movies, video games and weapons. And I hope that everyone will just be careful and cautious.”
Rather than commit to any specific courses of action, Reid said he’d wait to see what Obama will propose on guns — and through executive order. For now, the Democratic leader in the Senate said it’s time to take a breath.
“Let’s just look at everything. I don’t think we need to point to anything now,” he said. “We need to be very cool and cautious.”
Needless to say, this doesn’t fill TPM with confidence:
The Democratically-controlled U.S. Senate will not be a free-for-all of new gun regulations following the shooting at Sandy Hook, according to Majority Leader Harry Reid. Instead, Senators will focus on passing legislation that can move through the Republican-controlled House, Reid said.
That could spell doom for an assault weapons ban. Speaking on Nevada Week In Review, a news show on the PBS affiliate in Las Vegas, Reid said there’s no real chance of a new ban passing the House.
Reid says he was surprised to see the polling post-Newtown:
“We have to be fair. I was surprised with the poll results that came after this terrible situation that occurred at Sandy Hook. the numbers around the country — most people favor having the ability of people to carry guns,” he said. “So I think that the American people want us to be very cautious what we do. I think they want us to do things that are logical, smart, and make the country safer, not just be doing things that get a headline in a newspaper.”
Of course, the big headlines today are the polling from Pew and the Washington Post/ABC poll that shows support for an assault-weapons ban, albeit with plenty of qualifications. The Post/ABC survey showed voters more interested in economic issues than gun control, for instance.  Most support coalesces around initiatives to make background checks universal and tougher, and to consider mental-health issues along with criminal backgrounds, and even (by a 2-1 margin) to put armed guards in schools.
That’s hardly a mandate for a pell-mell rush into assault weapons bans.  It looks like Harry Reid has other plans for the Senate.
















http://www.infowars.com/rahm-emanuel-take-american-people-out-of-2nd-amendment-debate/


Rahm Emanuel: Take American People Out of 2nd Amendment “Debate”

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January 14, 2013
Chicago mayor and former Obama chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, has proposed restricting the discussion over firearm ownership in America to law enforcement.
“Put the police chief and the law enforcement community front and center,” Emanuel told the Center for American Progress. “Everybody else, from politician to whatever, take a backseat.”

Emanuel was instrumental during the Clinton administration in getting the 1994 assault-weapons ban passed.
Back in 2007, Emanuel, then a member of the United States House of Representatives, told the annual Stand Up For a Safe America event sponsored by the Brady Center that Americans on the terrorist no fly list would not be allowed to own a gun.
On Monday, Emanuel is slated to participate in a discussion between Democrats who have played leading roles in the effort to scale back the Second Amendment. The discussion is led by the influential Democrat think tank, Center for American Progress.


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Senate Approves Gun Control Legislation

A sweeping gun control bill cleared its biggest hurdle this evening, with the state Senate approving the legislation 43 to 18, with the Democratic-dominated Assembly expected to take up the measure when it convenes tomorrow morning.
With passage in the Assembly very likely, New York would become the first state to pass a gun control law in the wake of the spate of deadly shooting sprees last year, including the Connecticut elementary school shooting that killed 20 children.
It’s a major victory for Gov. Andrew Cuomo, even as some Republicans and gun control advocates grumbled that the bill was being rushed through the legislative process and was a means of burnishing his liberal credentials on the national stage.
“Tonight, the Senators that voted for the NY SAFE Act of 2013 made a bold statement, coming together in a bipartisan, collaborative manner to meet the challenges that face our state and our nation, as we have seen far too many senseless acts of gun violence,” Cuomo said in a statement. “I commend Senator Skelos, Senator Klein, and Senator Stewart-Cousins for their hard work on this important legislation.”
In addition to be an early victory for Cuomo, who is entering the third year of his four-year term, the measure was seen as an early test for the new coalition of Republicans and five independent Democrats that is leading the state Senate.
Senate Republicans touted the anti-crime provisions in the legisaltion that increase penalties for criminal who use illegal guns, expand requirements for treatment for the violently mentally ill and limits the public exposure of gun permit holders’ information.
“We’ve made a conscious decision that we’re going to bring more bills to the floor and members would be able to vote yes and no as they wish. I think what’s significant about this legislation is what we’ve managed to get in it,” Senate GOP Leader Dean Skelos said, who voted yes.

Still, the swift passage of the measure is already earning the ire of the National Rifle Association and second-amendment advocates, along with the base of the Republican Party. Several of the more conservative, upstate members of Skelos’ conference voted against the measure, including Sens. Greg Ball and Kathy Marchione.

Ball in particularly has been outspoken on the issue and railed against the decision of a newspaper to publish online a database of gun owners.
“We haven’t saved any lives tonight except for one: the political life of a governor who wants to be president,” Ball said.
But the leadership of the Senate Republicans seem to be glad that the issue for them legislatively is now behind them.
“Everybody has to do what they feel is the right thing to do,” Skelos said when asked about NRA backlash. “I know this is a difficult for many to deal with. I know for me in looking at this legislation that it is well-balanced.”
Mainline Senate Democrats, meanwhile, celebrated the measure’s passage. Democrats had carried a number of the gun control bills in the past, and many of their components were included in the final package approved this evening.
“We commend Governor Cuomo for this historic package of bills, consistent with legislation proposed by the Senate Democratic Conference for years but always blocked by the Senate Republicans,” said Senate Minority Leader Andrea Stewart-Cousins. “The Senate Democrats were proud to provide the votes to make this crucial package possible. The fact is, the bills passed today should have been enacted a long time ago.”




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http://capitaltonightny.ynn.com/2013/01/details-of-gun-package-include-foil-provision/

( New York's gun control law has passed the Senate tonite , heads to General Assembly tomorrow.. )


Details Of Gun Package Include FOIL Provision

As lawmakers are on the verge of agreeing to a tentative gun control measure, the proposed package includes provisions that would limit public exposure of pistol permit information.
A gun control package that lawmakers are on the verge of agreeing to would allow gun permit license holders to petition to not include their names on a public list if they believe the exposure is a danger, according to a legislative source briefed on the draft bill.
A statewide database of pistol permits from counties would not be subject to the Freedom of Information Law.
The move comes after the White Plains-based Journal News published a map on its website of pistol permit holders in its coverage area, save for Putnam County, whose county clerk has not complied with the law.
The centerpiece of the measure would update the state’s assault weapons ban of 1994 and limit high-capacity magazines from 10 bullets to seven. Having eight or more bullets in a magazine would result in a $200 fine and a misdemeanor charge. The assault weapons ban would apply to semiautomatic weapons with a detachable magazine.
Private sales would be subject to a background check, with dealers serving as the middle-man and would be able to charge a small fee. Private sales over the internet would also end, according to the draft legislation.
If a gun owner has their firearm stolen, it must be reported within 24 hours and dealers must report any stolen inventory. Failing to safely store a firearm results in a misdemeanor.  
The package would also increase penalties for illegal guns on school grounds, the murder of a first responder (EMS, firefighter or any other law enforcement) to an A1 felony, the penalty for the use of an unloaded weapon goes to a felony from a misdemeanor and “straw” purchaser would increase from a misdemeanor to an E felony.
Kendra’s Law would be extended for two years and treatment would grow to oney year from six months if needed. The law adds the provision of requiring a therapist to report the threat of a patient who claims to use a gun illegally to a county mental health official, who would then be required to inform the state if the threat is believed serious. Those in a state prison would require an assessment before being released.









http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/276825-obama-faces-limited-options-on-executive-action-on-gun-violence

( With Hillary leaving and Geithner leaving , it would appear the power moving frward in the next Administration i going to be seated with VP Biden - first sign was Biden running the critical negotiations with McConnell during the Fiscal Cliff talk , once Boehner / Redi and Obama were sent to the sidelines. Now we once again see VP Biden calling the shots regarding plans for gun control.... and if you don't think Joe is calling the shots here , read how the article is written and read the words from Joe's mouth.... )

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sweeping-new-gun-laws-proposed-by-influential-liberal-think-tank/2013/01/12/65192d26-5c2a-11e2-9fa9-5fbdc9530eb9_story.html


Sweeping new gun laws proposed by influential liberal think tank





With President Obama readying an overhaul of the nation’s gun laws, a liberal think tank with singular influence throughout his administration is pushing for a sweeping agenda of strict new restrictions on and federal oversight of gun and ammunition sales.
The Center for American Progress is recommending 13 new gun policies to the White House — some of them executive actions that would not require the approval of Congress — in what amounts to the progressive community’s wish list.
  CAP’s proposals — which include requiring universal background checks, banning military-grade assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines, and modernizing data systems to track gun sales and enforce existing laws — are all but certain to face stiff opposition from the National Rifle Association and its many allies in Congress.
Obama — as well as Vice President Biden, who is leading the administration’s gun violence task force — has voiced support for many of these measures. Yet it is unclear which policies he ultimately will propose to Congress. Biden is planning to present his group’s recommendations to Obama on Tuesday.
CAP’s recommendations, presented Friday to White House officials and detailed in an 11-page report obtained by The Washington Post, establish a benchmark for what many in Obama’s liberal base are urging him to doafter last month’s massacre at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn.
“There’s nothing here that interferes with the rights of people to have a gun to protect themselves,” CAP President Neera Tanden said. But, she added, “we have daily episodes where it seems that guns are in the wrong hands, and that’s why we think it’s important that the president acts.”
On Monday, Tanden will moderate a public discussion with three Democrats who have played leading roles in the gun debate: Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, who during the Clinton administration helped get the 1994 assault-weapons ban passed; Sen. Charles E. Schumer (N.Y.), who helped write that bill as a House member; and Rep. Mike Thompson (Calif.), who chairs the House Gun Violence Prevention Task Force.
One of CAP’s suggestions to toughen federal regulation of gun sales is to make the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which is currently an agency within the Department of Justice, a unit of the FBI. CAP says absorbing the ATF into the FBI would better empower the ATF to combat gun crime and illegal trafficking.
“It is a beleaguered agency lacking leadership and resources,” said Winnie Stachelberg, senior vice president of CAP. “It needs to be a well-functioning federal law enforcement agency, and we need to figure out ways to ensure that happens.”
CAP’s top recommendation is to require criminal background checks for all gun sales, closing loopholes that currently enable an estimated 40 percent of sales to occur without any questions asked. The organization also wants to add convicted stalkers and suspected terrorists to the list of those barred from purchasing firearms.




CAP is urging the Obama administration to back Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s proposal to ban assault weapons. The California Democrat wants to prohibit the sale, transfer, importation and manufacture of military-style assault weapons and ammunition magazines that carry more than 10 bullets.
The group also suggests requiring firearms dealers to report to the federal government individuals who purchase multiple semiautomatic assault rifles within a five-day period. Current law requires reporting multiple purchases of handguns, but not semiautomatic assault rifles.
CAP also wants the administration to free public health research agencies, including the National Institutes of Health and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, to study the impact of gun violence on injuries and deaths. For years, lawmakers, urged by the NRA, have placed riders on spending bills that restrict these and other agencies from conducting such research.





http://www.businessinsider.com/nra-assault-weapons-ban-gun-control-biden-task-force-meeting-background-checks-2013-1


NRA President: There's No Way An Assault Weapons Ban Will Pass

David Keene
AP
After a week during which his organization met with Vice President Joe Biden to talk proposals to curb the nation's rash of gun violence, NRA President David Keene predicted Sunday that two of the White House's big proposals would fail in Congress.
Speaking on CNN's "State of the Union" with Candy Crowley, Keene said that both the assault weapons ban and a curb on high capacity magazines wouldn't hold up in Congress.
"I would say that the likelihood is that they are not going to be able to get an assault weapons ban through this Congress," Keene said. "The fact is that we live in a society where first of all, we have constitutional rights, and secondly, there are millions upon millions of Americans who value the rights that they have under the Second Amendment."


And a limit on certain high-capacity magazines wouldn't hold up, he suggested, because they are too cheap to be effectively regulated.
"Even David Gregory could find one," Keene quipped, referring to when the "Meet the Press" host held up a high-capacity magazine during NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre's appearance on the show last month.
On Friday, the White House brushed back on suggestions that it would not pursue a reinstatement of the assault weapons ban as part of its overall strategy to curb gun violenceWhite House spokesman Matt Lehrich called reports that President Barack Obama wouldn't look for reinstatement false, saying because it would be "politically difficult" wasn't a concern.
Later on "State of the Union," Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin agreed that an assault weapons ban couldn't pass as a standalone bill. Manchin, a Democrat in the deep red state of West Virginia, was one of the most prominent members of Congress to signal a change in his thinking on gun control after the elementary school massacre in Newtown, Conn.
But Manchin said a reinstatement of the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 would have to be combined with other measures to get through Congress. 

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Obama faces 'limited' options on executive action on gun violence


By Mike Lillis 01/12/13 11:54 AM ET


The Obama administration's vow to tackle gun violence – with Congress, or without – has sparked an uproar from conservative Republicans and has left Democratic gun reformers eager to learn what the White House has up its sleeve.

Vice President Joe Biden is expected to propose legislative solutions to what President Obama has called the nation's gun-violence "epidemic" as early as Tuesday, but he says he's also eying executive orders empowering the administration to take action without congressional approval.
“There are executive orders, executive action, that can be taken," Biden said Wednesday. "We haven't decided what that is yet, but we're compiling it all.”

Although GOP leaders say they'll examine the whole of Biden's strategy, rank-and-file Republicans are already lining up behind the National Rifle Association against anything that would limit the buying or owning of guns – a stark warning that the legislative route could very quickly become a dead-end, particularly in the GOP-controlled House.



A roadblock in Congress would shine a brighter spotlight on Obama's unilateral response – both as a fulfillment of his promise to address gun violence head-on in the wake of last month's Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre, and as a magnet of criticism from conservatives who've accused him for years of ruling by decree.
Legal experts say the most significant changes being considered by Biden's task force – including an assault weapons ban, a prohibition on high-capacity ammunition magazines and universal background checks for gun sales – would all require congressional action.

"His options are limited," Adam Winkler, constitutional scholar at the UCLA School of Law, said by phone Friday. "He can seek to better enforce existing federal law, but he can't act contrary to existing federal law."
Winkler and others say Obama can install changes like new importation limits on weapons, tougher law-enforcement policies and greater cooperation between federal agencies sharing criminal and mental-health records – all without Congress's blessing.


Biden and other administration officials are holding their cards very close to the vest, but past actions from the White House – combined with some of the vice president's brief public comments from this week – lend some clues about what type of executive actions might be under consideration.



Much of the focus seems to be on efforts to strengthen the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), an FBI database through which licensed gun dealers are required to screen potential buyers before selling weapons. Under federal law, felons, illegal immigrants, drug abusers, spousal abusers and the severely mentally ill may not buy or own firearms. But the system is riddled with holes, as many states – and even federal agencies – have declined to share records with NICS.



Indeed, an examination of 60 federal agencies in October 2011 revealed that only eight had shared mental-health records with NICS, while only three had submitted drug-abuse records, according to FBI data provided to Mayors Against Illegal Guns, an advocacy group. Among the agencies that had not shared any records on substance abusers was the Drug Enforcement Administration.

Winkler said it's well within Obama's power to require federal agencies to share records with NICS, though it would take an act of Congress to require states to do the same.

"It's widely regarded that there's insufficient sharing of information between federal agencies," said Winkler, the author of "Gunfight: The Battle over the Right to Bear Arms in America."







http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2013/01/wyoming-delclare-war-on-feds-threatens-to-arrest-federal-gun-grabbers-2483478.html


As details continue to emerge regarding gun control plans that President Barack Obama and the Democrats are pushing behind the scenes, Wyoming lawmakers have a message for the federal government: “Don’t tread on us.”

Local radio station KTWO reports that lawmakers in Wyoming have proposed a “Firearms Protection Act” that provides a state-level annulment of any ban against semi-automatics or magazines that hold 20 or 30 rounds or more.
If the measure passes, it would mean that anyone–even federal agents-who try to enforce a ban within the state borders could be charged with a felony.
Is this the wave of the future for “red” states concerned about Obama’s strong anti-gun intentions?
It is too early to tell. But it is worth noting that Montana lawmakers began pushing for the same kind of legislation as soon as conservatives took control of that state’s legislature in 2010.



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http://beforeitsnews.com/survival/2013/01/kentucky-sheriff-to-obama-no-gun-disarmament-in-my-county-2456370.html



Washington DC - -(Ammoland.com)- Jackson County Kentucky Sheriff Denny Peyman is making it clear that no law that violates the Constitution will be upheld in his county.
This especially applies to new gun control edicts Obama & Co. are trying to push onto the American people.
Said Peyman: “My office will not comply with any federal action which violates the United States Constitution or the Kentucky Constitution which I swore uphold.”
And far from worrying about repercussions for doing this, Peyman sees the gun control push as a sign of weakness that will crumble in the face of real opposition: “Just a few of us have to be willing to stand up to political opposition putting our people at risk. The other side will back down.”
Ladies and Gentlemen, we have found a patriot. And his name is Sheriff Denny Peyman.
About:
AWR Hawkins writes for all the BIG sites, for Pajamas Media, for RedCounty.com, for Townhall.com and now AmmoLand Shooting Sports News.
His southern drawl is frequently heard discussing his take on current events on radio shows like America’s Morning News, the G. Gordon Liddy Show, the Ken Pittman Show, and the NRA’s Cam & Company, among others. He was a Visiting Fellow at the Russell Kirk Center for Cultural Renewal (summer 2010), and he holds a PhD in military history from Texas Tech University.
If you have questions or comments, email him at awr@awrhawkins.com. You can find him on facebook at www.facebook.com/awr.hawkins.







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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/11/ceo-who-threatened-to-start-killing-people-over-gun-control-has-handgun-permit-suspended/


CEO WHO THREATENED TO ‘START KILLING PEOPLE’ OVER GUN CONTROL HAS HANDGUN PERMIT SUSPENDED

CEO James Yeager Has Handgun Permit Suspended After Threatening to Start Killing People
(YouTube)
The Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security has suspended the handgun carry permit of James Yeager, CEO of Tactical Response, a firearms and tactical training company, who recently said he would “start killing people” if the Obama administration attempted to enact gun control through executive action.
In a statement released on Friday, state officials said they suspended Yeager’s permit based on “material likelihood of risk of harm to the public,” WTVF-TV reports.

The video of Yeager furiously denouncing the Obama administration and threatening violent action over gun control went viral on Thursday.

“The number one priority for our department is to ensure the public’s safety,” Commissioner Bill Gibbons wrote in a statement. “Mr. Yeager’s comments were irresponsible, dangerous, and deserved our immediate attention. Due to our concern, as well as that of law enforcement, his handgun permit was suspended immediately. We have notified Mr. Yeager about the suspension today via e-mail. He will receive an official notification of his suspension through the mail.”


The controversial clip was purportedly published on his YouTube and Facebook pages on Jan. 9, but according to Raw Story, it was later removed and replaced with a tamed-down version.
In the original video, he started by admitting that he’s “kind of mad.” Then, he launched into a diatribe about Vice President Joe Biden’s recent claim that President Barack Obama may rely upon executive orders to tackle the issue.
“Vice President Biden is asking the president to bypass Congress and use executive privilege, executive order to ban assault rifles and to impose stricter gun control,” said Yeager. “F**k that.”


Yeager’s company, Tactical Response, has several certifications with various weapons. However, Officials with the Tennessee
Department of Safety and Homeland Security claimed Yeager was not a certified instructor with their agency.
The only way Yeager can get his handgun permit back is to ask for a review of the department’s decision in the general sessions court, according WTVF-TV.








http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2013/01/11/obama-opposed-gun-ban-exception-defend-home/


Obama Opposed Gun Ban Exception to Defend One’s Home

by KEITH KOFFLER on JANUARY 11, 2013, 9:58 AM
As a state senator in Illinois, President Obama opposed legislation providing an exception to handgun restrictions if the weapon was used in the defense of one’s home.
Obama’s vote would have maintained the status quo, which made it a violation of municipal gun ban law to use a firearm to save your own life in your own home. But the bill was passed anyway without his support.
The vote is a sign of how committed Obama may be to strict gun control measures.
The Illinois vote is hardly ancient history, having occurred in 2004 as Obama was running for election to the U.S. Senate. In opposing the measure, Obama lined up well to the left of the mainstream, as the Illinois Senate included 32 Democrats to 26 Republicans but approved the bill by an overwhelming margin and subsequently overrode a veto by then-Gov. Rod Blagojevich.
Obama did not participate in the veto override, which occurred in November 2004, likely after Obama had resigned his state Senate seat in order to prepare for his new role in the U.S. Senate.
The Illinois legislation was passed after a man who shot a burglar in his home was fined $750 by his town for disobeying its handgun ban. The absurdity and injustice of the situation doesn’t seem to have made much of an impression on Obama.
Just eight years earlier, in 1996, Obama answered “Yes” to a survey question asking whether he would support state legislation to “ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.” The Obama 2008 presidential campaign claimed the form had been filled out by an aide who mischaracterized Obama’s position, even though Obama’s handwriting was found on survey.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/10/executive-gun-order-easier-said-than-done/


The administration is eyeing unilateral steps on gun control, but analysts said there are few things President Obama can do on his own because gun control is one area where Congress has jealously guarded its power to make the laws.
In many areas, Congress writes broad laws but gives the executive branch wide discretion to write rules and regulations. Not so with guns.
“The problem with gun control is that Congress has been extraordinarily explicit,” said John Hudak, a scholar on executive power at the Brookings Institution. “When gun-control legislation is passed, it is usually very detailed in what Congress intended and it is usually very detailed in the barriers it sets up for the executive branch. That limits presidential authority to use executive power because there is little discretion.”
Vice President Joseph R. Biden, who is leading the White House task force on gun control, said this week that Mr. Obama is looking at “executive orders, executive action” that he can take without having to depend on Congress, which has blocked stricter gun control for nearly two decades.
Constitutional analysts and gun specialists said there may be some room for the administration to act alone to tighten the instant background checks by asking states to pony up more data.
But they said anything broader, such as banning types of guns, ammunition or magazines, would have to come from Congress.
Alan Korwin, a gun rights advocate and author of books on gun laws, said Congress has not given the president the power to tighten the laws on his own.

“Nor should, nor can, they. They are not empowered to,” Mr. Korwin said. “In other words, the people have not given Congress the ability to give the president the power that is not spelled out in the Constitution.”

Mr. Korwin, though, added that Congress has shown a willingness to give away its powers on some thorny issues.

The current debate erupted after a shooting rampage killed 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.

On Thursday, Mr. Biden met with gun rights groups, including the National Rifle Association, and said his task force will release its recommendations Tuesday. Retailers such as Wal-MartDick's Sporting Goods and other stores that sell firearms met with Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. in the late afternoon Thursday.

Mr. Biden said a consensus is developing around proposals such as banning high-capacity magazines and imposing tighter background checks, though NRA officials accused him of having already made up his mind and using them for a predetermined dog-and-pony show.

“We were disappointed with how little this meeting had to do with keeping our children safe and how much it had to do with an agenda to attack the Second Amendment,” the gun lobbying group said. “While claiming that no policy proposal would be ‘prejudged,’ this task force spent most of its time on proposed restrictions on lawful firearms owners — honest, taxpaying, hardworking Americans.”

In the wake of the shooting, Mr. Obama said he would “use whatever power this office holds to engage my fellow citizens, from law enforcement to mental health professionals, to parents and educators, in an effort aimed at preventing more tragedies like this.”



Mr. Biden went further this week, meeting with shooting victims and their families and saying, “There are executive orders, executive action, that can be taken.”

The White House declined to elaborate on what Mr. Biden meant, but analysts said one area would be to strive for better records in the instant background check system for gun purchases.
Mayors Against Illegal Guns, in a report two years ago, said the president can issue an executive order mandating federal agencies to provide all of their data to the background check system, and could do a better job of pushing states to provide more records. But the group said boosting penalties on states that don’t comply would have to pass Congress.
Mr. Hudak said the president will most likely step up the enforcement of laws already on the books — a move that requires no new approval from Congress, and that gun-rights groups regularly call for too.
He said that Mr. Obama also could make a recess appointment to tap a like-minded director for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, who could then make curbing gun violence a top priority.
A more risky possibility is for Mr. Obama to test the limits of what he deems as vague parts of laws already on the books — a move that likely would prompt a clash with Congress and lead to court challenges.
William G. Howell, a professor at the University of Chicago who has written widely on separation of powers among the branches of government, said that the softening of public opposition to more gun-control laws in the wake of recent shootings could encourage Mr. Obama to try to test the limits of a unilateral edict.
“It seems there may be an opportunity for him to act that he did not have three years ago,” Mr. Howell said. “While Congress may lack the votes to enact new gun control legislation, it may also lack the votes, or the will, to amend or overturn something that the president does on its own.”

The biggest hurdle for Mr. Obama would be to try to impose more restrictions on what guns can be sold.
The president said he supports renewing the ban on military-style rifles, known as the assault weapons ban, which expired in 2004, and also said he wants a ban on high-capacity magazines.
But getting Congress on board would be an uphill battle.
Mr. Obama has not been shy about using executive authority when he thinks his action would be popular or politically advantageous.
He has allowed states to opt out of some requirements under the No Child Left Behind education law, and said he would issue waivers from the work requirement under the welfare-reform law.
Last year, he said the Homeland Security Department would use prosecutorial discretion to stop deporting young adult illegal immigrants and would stop targeting most other rank-and-file illegal immigrants.
He also has been sued over his use of the recess appointment power after he made several appointments last year, even when Congress considered itself in session.


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http://hotair.com/archives/2013/01/11/dem-senator-mark-begich-im-not-interested-in-a-new-assault-weapons-ban/


Dem Senator Mark Begich: I’m “not interested” in a new assault-weapons ban

POSTED AT 7:31 PM ON JANUARY 11, 2013 BY ALLAHPUNDIT


No surprise that a pol from Alaska won’t touch guns, but in case you’re one of three people left in America who still thinks there’s a chance a new AWB will pass this year, let a highly vulnerable red-state Democrat who’s up for reelection put your mind at ease.
Asked which gun control measures he would support, Begich said, “I’m not supporting anything at this point, and I want to see what those recommendations are.”
Begich continued, “We have to be very careful that we don’t jump to the clamor of emotion. … I don’t believe that we just need to pile on new laws and suddenly that solves all the problems.”…
Responding to another question about whether he would support a renewal of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban, which outlawed the manufacture of several types of semiautomatic firearms for civilian use from 1994 to 2004, Begich said he is “not interested.”
Other red-state Democrats up for reelection: Mary Landrieu, Max Baucus, Tim Johnson, Kay Hagan, and Mark Pryor. Landrieu and Baucus voted no when the last AWB came up for renewal in 2004, and although Pryor voted yes, Arkansas wasn’t quite as red then as it is now. There’s no chance Reid will get to 60 in the Senate for a new ban; there’s a very slim chance that he won’t even get to 50. If you’re Pryor and you’re facing a tough campaign on unfavorable terrain, what’s your incentive for voting for a new AWB that hasn’t a prayer of passing?
And before you ask, no, the RINOs likely aren’t going to come to Obama’s rescue either. The other senator from Alaska sounds unsurprisingly chilly to new gun regulations too:
“I have a real hard time with this. We’re talking about the Second Amendment,” Murkowski continued. “A Second Amendment right in my view cannot be trumped, in my view, with an executive order so I’m not quite sure where the vice president’s coming from on this. I’ve suggested that — well, look, if what you’re talking about here is greater enforcement of existing laws, OK, let’s talk about that, but if through executive order you put a limitation or restriction through my executive rights or your executive rights, that’s wrong, we do not allow that to happen.”…
“As far as Sen. Feinstein’s proposal, again, we haven’t seen that actual legislative text,” Murkowki’s said. “I’ve heard enough of what she’s proposing to have very real concerns. The things that she is talking about would, in my view, demonize those of us who lawfully own, respect firearms without solving the problem.”
The NYT published a piece last night gently warning the congregation to lower its expectations for a new AWB. That also explains Biden’s conspicuous omission of the ban yesterday when rattling off gun-control measures on which he senses a consensus developing. (Even some Republicans have sounded their approval for more limited regulations, like a ban on high-capacity magazines.) Makes me wonder if Obama and Reid will dare disappoint their base by failing to even push for a Senate vote on Feinstein’s bill or whether they feel obliged to go forward in hopes of blaming everything on the GOP when it fails. That depends, I suppose, on whether they can convince Landrieu et al. to vote yes full in the knowledge that the ban won’t pass. If they can’t, then what’s to be gained from a tough floor vote in which the bill fails due to bipartisan opposition? It’ll damage the “GOP obstruction” talking point. Better to not offer the bill at all and have Obama and Reid issue statements that it’s pointless to proceed knowing that those damned Republicans would filibuster it and break America’s heart again. But I don’t know — maybe that wouldn’t be good enough to satisfy the left. If you believe Andrea Mitchell, O’s “absolutely committed” to pushing for a new AWB and it’ll definitely be in the Biden task force’s recommendations on Tuesday.


So , when there is no traction on the Feinstein Bill from the Senate , does the White House really go the route of Executive Orders and Actions on gun control ? 

Biden: My task force will have some gun-control recommendations on Obama’s desk by Tuesday

POSTED AT 3:21 PM ON JANUARY 10, 2013 BY ALLAHPUNDIT


The task force was supposed to have suggestions for O by the end of the month but that plan was kiboshedwhen the political reality of attention spans after mass shootings began to set in. So, new plan: The national lecture “conversation” on gun control will begin officially on Tuesday.
Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. told sports shooting groups Thursday he would send his recommendations on preventing gun violence to President Barack Obama by Jan. 15, according to a White House pool report.
Biden mentioned several measures that he said he has heard supported repeatedly —universal background checks, limits on high capacity magazines, and the government’s ability to do research on gun violence. Biden clarified that background checks would go beyond closing the so-called gun show loophole.
He compared the current limits on federal data gathering with the 1970s restrictions on federal research over the cause of traffic fatalities. He said there is a need to study which weapons are used most to kill and which tend to be trafficked.

The One will issue some sort of executive order too, likely tightening reporting requirements for federal agencies related to gun ownership and mental health and directing the DOJ to bump up prosecutions of gun traffickers. Eric Holder himself will be sitting in on Biden’s meeting today with major gun retailers like Wal-Mart, during which the veep will remind them that requiring universal background checks means fewer sales for private sellers and therefore more sales for them. Corporate buy-offs: They worked for ObamaCare with the pharmaceutical industry, why couldn’t they work for this?
Just one question: Whither the new assault-weapons ban? That’s a glaring omission from Biden’s list of new measures on which he senses a consensus. There’s no doubt they’re going to propose one but there’s also no doubt that the House will sink it. I think the AWB is really more of a negotiating tactic than an earnest demand: They’ll put it out there next week as their unrealistic opening offer so that they can drop it later in favor of more “reasonable” feasible measures like universal background checks and banning high-capacity magazines. Background checks, in particular, enjoy massive support, with one recent poll showing92% in favor of requiring them at gun shows and a CNN poll taken last year finding 94% support for checks on all potential gun buyers. That’d be a very tough vote for congressional Republicans and of course Biden knows it, which is why he’s talking it up today. If you can’t get your policies passed, you might as well use them as a way to make the opposition squirm.


http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/chicago-police-chief-well-shoot-licensed-civilians-with-guns/30826/

Chicago police chief: We’ll shoot licensed civilians with guns



Chicago’s illustrious Police Chief, Superintendent or SuperNintendo (whichever you wish to call him) got on a local radio station in Chicago and told it like he perceives it.
He said that citizens licensed to carry could be, and indeed predicted they would be shot by Chicago Police Officers.

Like that happens in 49 other states (or 56 other states if you listen to Barack Obama).
Here’s the words from the Chicago’s Chief Street Light Asssassin, as reported by News in Black:
“I don’t care if they’re licensed legal firearms, people who are not highly trained… putting guns in their hands is a recipe for disaster. So I’ll train our officers that there is a concealed carry law, but when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire and we’re going to have tragedies as a result of that. I’m telling you right up front.”
How is that different than police officers are now trained, Mr. Streetlight Assassin?
Here’s what Second City Cop, a blog by and for Chicago Police Officers thought of McCarthy’s remarks:

…Rahm and McShitForBrains continue to push their belief that Illinois residents in general and Chicago denizens in particular, are completely incompetent when it comes to gun ownership.  Let’s be real – how often do you think you’ll be running into an actual legally carrying citizen?  Those aren’t the people that the police usually encounter.  And if you aren’t treating every traffic stop as one where a gun might be on scene in any event, you’re not being the police.
And not to denigrate the Department, but we’ll bet a sizable percentage of Illinois citizens not only know guns better than the police, they can outshoot them 60-to-70% of the time, 99% of the time if we’re talking long guns.
Remember, McKillTheCitizens was documented to have been shooting out streetlights when he carried a gun in New York – is that really the sort of asshole who should be telling citizens they can’t have guns after a year of 500+ homicides, 2,500+ shootings and a January that is already 200% ahead of last years dismal showing?



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