Friday, January 11, 2013

Petition to the White House for Public assay and validation of the non - existent gold at Fort Knox and West Point...... And the crickets will chirp starting in five , four , three , two , one ........

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/276817-white-house-responds-to-secession-petitions
( Hmm , White House cleaning out the Petition in-box.... )


White House responds to secession petitions, calls for unity instead

By Alexandra Jaffe 01/12/13 10:01 AM ET
The White House has responded to a handful of petitions calling for various states to be given the right to secede from the United States, calling for unity and participatory government instead.

"In a nation of 300 million people — each with their own set of deeply-held beliefs — democracy can be noisy and controversial. And that's a good thing. Free and open debate is what makes this country work, and many people around the world risk their lives every day for the liberties we often take for granted," writes Director of the Office of Public Engagement Jon Carson.

"But as much as we value a healthy debate, we don't let that debate tear us apart," he adds.

A handful of "We the People" petitions calling for the government to allow various states to secede cropped up following President Obama's reelection. The White House has responded to all those which received more than 25,000 signatures within a month, the minimum required to get a response.

The states included in the response are Florida, Louisiana, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, North Carolina, South Carolina and Texas. The Texas petition received over 125,000 signatures, more than any other.  



The response was also issued, ironically, to a petition calling for the deportation of all those who signed secession petitions. 

Carson goes on to argue for a united nation based on the Founding Fathers' intentions, with the "right to change our national government through the power of the ballot."

"But they did not provide a right to walk away from it. As President Abraham Lincoln explained in his first inaugural address in 1861, 'in contemplation of universal law and of the Constitution the Union of these States is perpetual,'" Carson writes.

He adds that the Civil War "vindicated the principle that the Constitution establishes a permanent union between the States."  

Instead of seceding, Carson says, citizens of the U.S. should engage with the government.

"Whether it's figuring out how to strengthen our economy, reduce our deficit in a responsible way, or protect our country, we will need to work together -- and hear from one another -- in order to find the best way to move forward," he writes.

The "We the People" site has received a number of bizarre petitions since its inception, including one to give Vice President Joe Biden a television show, and one calling for the administration to build a Death Star.

The latter petition received a response from the White House this week. As with the secession petitions, the White House let down those hoping for a Death Star. 

Paul Shawcross, chief of the White House Office of Management and Budget’s science and space branch, wrote that the proposal was simply too expensive.



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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-12/white-house-responds-request-construction-imperial-death-star

( With the White House response to the Bild the Death Star Petition docketed , I eagerly await a response to the gold assay Petition..... )


White House Responds To Imperial Death Star Petition

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Almost a year ago, in February 2012, Zero Hedge decided to "think outside the box" and take Keynesianism and post-Chartalism (or whatever three letter acronym it is better known as these days) to their absurd, thought-experimental limits with "A Modest Proposal To Boost US GDP By $852 Quadrillion: Build The Imperial Death Star" - a suggestion that instead of growing US debt in dribs and drabs (because as any Ivy league tenured econ Ph.D will tell you, "debt is wealth"), that the US should go the whole hog and just splurge some $852 quadrillion in new debt (don't worry, MMT says that's just a token, no pun intended, amount) to build an Imperial Death Star, a project that would immediately hike US GDP by a factor of 56,000 and create several trillion new jobs, ensuring economic utopia in perpetuity, not to mention galactic dominance. We weremostly joking. We also assume that the creator of a White House petition launched in November to "Secure resources and funding, and begin construction of a Death Star by 2016" was also mostly joking. However, as that petition promptly accumulated well over 34,000 signatures, the White House had no choice but to respond. Here are the White House's thoughts on becoming the next iteration of the Galactic Empire (and, by implication, Barack Obama becoming Emperor Palpatine reincarnated).

Official White House Response to Secure resources and funding, and begin construction of a Death Star by 2016.

This Isn't the Petition Response You're Looking For

By Paul Shawcross

The Administration shares your desire for job creation and a strong national defense, but a Death Star isn't on the horizon. Here are a few reasons:
  • The construction of the Death Star has been estimated to cost more than $850,000,000,000,000,000. We're working hard to reduce the deficit, not expand it.
  • The Administration does not support blowing up planets.
  • Why would we spend countless taxpayer dollars on a Death Star with a fundamental flaw that can be exploited by a one-man starship?
However, look carefully (here's how) and you'll notice something already floating in the sky -- that's no Moon, it's a Space Station! Yes, we already have a giant, football field-sized International Space Station in orbit around the Earth that's helping us learn how humans can live and thrive in space for long durations. The Space Station has six astronauts -- American, Russian, and Canadian -- living in it right now, conducting research, learning how to live and work in space over long periods of time, routinely welcoming visiting spacecraft and repairing onboard garbage mashers, etc. We've also got two robot science labs -- one wielding a laser-- roving around Mars, looking at whether life ever existed on the Red Planet.

Keep in mind, space is no longer just government-only. Private American companies, through NASA's Commercial Crew and Cargo Program Office (C3PO), are ferrying cargo -- and soon, crew -- to space for NASA, and are pursuing human missions to the Moon this decade.
Even though the United States doesn't have anything that can do the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs, we've got two spacecraft leaving the Solar System and we're building a probe that will fly to the exterior layers of the Sun. We are discovering hundreds of new planets in other star systems and building a much more powerful successor to the Hubble Space Telescope that will see back to the early days of the universe.
We don't have a Death Star, but we do havefloating robot assistants on the Space Station, a President who knows his way around a light saber and advanced (marshmallow) cannon, and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, which is supporting research on building Luke's arm, floating droids, and quadruped walkers.

We are living in the future! Enjoy it. Or better yet, help build it by pursuing a career in a science, technology, engineering or math-related field. The President has held the first-ever White House science fairs and Astronomy Night on the South Lawn because he knows these domains are critical to our country's future, and to ensuring the United States continues leading the world in doing big things.
If you do pursue a career in a science, technology, engineering or math-related field, the Force will be with us! Remember, the Death Star's power to destroy a planet, or even a whole star system, is insignificant next to the power of the Force.
Paul Shawcross is Chief of the Science and Space Branch at the White House Office of Management and Budget

http://www.theinternationalforecaster.com/International_Forecaster_Weekly/Looking_in_Fort_Knox_for_it_s_Gold



By Alfred Adask
    Ft. Knox Gold Gone? On Thursday’s radio show (Financial Survival, 4PM to 5PM East Coast time (dgscoins.com), I was reading from an article by Mr. Przemyslaw Radomski that explored the possibility that there's no longer any gold in the U.S. depository at Ft. Knox:

•  "An audit of the US gold holdings has  been demanded by some for years, but the government will not allow it.   The gold belongs to the American people, so why won't they let us see  it?  Many think it is because it is no longer there.  If that is indeed  the case, do we not face a 'financial Armageddon'?

"At first it may sound shocking, but the last audit of gold stored in Fort Knox took place in 1953. No typo here, 1953, just after U.S. President Dwight Eisenhower took office. [However,] No outside experts were allowed [during that audit] and the audit team tested only about 5% of gold hoarded in the fort. So, there hasn’t been a comprehensive audit of Fort Knox in over 60 (!!!) years."

 •  "Congressman John R. Rarick demanded a Congressional investigation and, on September 23, 1974 six Congressmen, one Senator and the press were allowed to enter Fort Knox to see for themselves if the gold was there or not.  The tour showed that there was gold in Fort Knox but, all the same, it sparked even more controversies.

"Only a fraction of the gold reserves were available to see. A photo of one Congressman published by Associated Press suggested that gold bars held in the fort may have been less heavy than would be usually expected.  This resulted in even more doubt about the fineness of gold in Fort Knox. .

. . [This is]  important if you consider that counterfeit 'gold bars' have been showing up in New York recently and that fake gold bars turned up in LBMA Approved Vaults in Hong Kong."


•  "In 2012, the German federal court ordered that the German central bank, Bundesbank, conduct an audit of German gold reserves stored abroad, particularly in the U.S., U.K. and in France. The German authorities have never before conducted a comprehensive audit of their foreign gold reserves and the last time they were [even] able to see their gold stored in the New York Federal Reserve vaults was supposedly in 1979/80. Because of that, 150 tons of gold will be shipped from the U.S. to Germany to assess the fineness of the bars."

     All of this—no comprehensive audit in over 60 years, Congressional doubt as far back as A.D. 1974, German doubt in A.D. 2012, and counterfeit "gold bars"—illustrates that there are legitimate reasons to doubt the gov-co's claim to currently store about 8,200 metric tons of gold at Fort Knox and/or the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

     Mr. Radomski provided an interesting chart to illustrate the relationship between U.S. National Debt and the currently claimed U.S. treasury of gold (8,200 metric tons):

 Link to image: http://theinternationalforecaster.com/images/debtvsgold1.jpg

   
The red line shows changes in the number of metric tons of gold held by the U.S. Treasury over time.  The yellow line signifies the National Debt as measured in dollars of debt per ounce of gold.

     Mr. Radomski used this graph to illustrate that back in the 1920s, the government had virtually no National Debt and therefore the ratio of debt to an ounce of gold was 0 to 1.  However, over time the National Debt (yellow line) increased until today there are $60,000 in National Debt for each ounce of gold allegedly held in the U.S. Treasury.

     Mr. Radomski doesn't argue that the price of gold should therefore be $60,000/ounce.  But he does believe that, much like fractional reserve banking, at least 10% of the National Debt should be backed by gold and therefore the current price of gold might reasonably be about $6,000/ounce.  He adds that if it turns out that there is little or no gold in Ft. Knox, the price of gold should skyrocket.

     •  I look at the graph and a couple of points jump out at me:
Link to image: http://theinternationalforecaster.com/images/debtvsgold2.jpg

   
 •  First, from A.D. 1917 to 1939, the U.S. treasury of gold grew in a fairly orderly, "stair-step" manner from 2,500 tons to about 8,500 tons.
   
 •  Second, in A.D. 1939-1940, the U.S. treasury of gold suddenly jumped from 8,500 tons to about 19,500 tons.  That's a 130% increase in about one year.  That's fantastic.
    
I don't know why our holdings in gold increased so dramatically.  I presume that with the onset of WWII, foreign nations in the European or Asian theaters of war decided to store some of their gold in the comparatively safe USA.  But, if so, I don't understand how an influx of foreign gold intended to be merely stored in the USA could be counted as an addition to the U.S. Treasury.  I therefore presume that when WWII started, America's first response was to sell food, and/or military equipment and supplies nations at war—and sell it for gold.

     Whatever the reason, the onset of WWII was extremely profitable for the U.S. Treasury.

(In fact, WWII was so initially profitable that I'm left to wonder if the onset of a WWIII could be similarly profitable.  If so, could a WWIII be started for the purpose of increasing our Treasury's supply of gold?)

     •  Third, our gold supply grew more or less slowly from A.D. 1939 (19,500 tons) through A.D. 1957 to about 20,500 tons.

     •  Fourth, starting about A.D. 1957, the U.S. Treasury's holding of gold began to fall precipitously from 20,500 tons to a reported 8,500 tons in about A.D. 1972.  I don't know what caused that steep decline, but I suspect that the cause may have been some sort of policy change or treaty under the Eisenhower-Nixon administration.

There was severe unemployment in A.D. 1958.  It's remotely possible that the government began to sell off its gold as a means to "stimulate" the economy.  (If so, I can also imagine how government would eventually realize that they couldn't use up all of their gold and therefore opted to create of a pure fiat that could be used to "stimulate" the economy without actually spending any gold.  I wouldn't bet that hypothesis is true, but it's an interesting possibility.)

Whatever the reason, the U.S. government admits to having reduced its gold holding from 20,500 tons to 8,500—almost 60%—in the 15 years from A.D. 1957 to 1972.  That's a huge reduction, and I wonder what the rationale may have been.  (How the  Hell was that allowed to happen? )

     •  Fifth, the U.S. disposed of another 200 to 300 tons of gold between A.D. 1972 and A.D. 1980.  Since then, our reported gold supply has remained at a constant 8,200 tons.  The U.S. Treasury has reportedly not bought or sold another ounce of gold of the past 32 years.

I wonder why?  Is 8,200 the "magic number" that represents exactly how many tons of gold we should have?  Not too much.  Not too little.  But juuuust right! . . .  Right?

     Actually, it strikes me as extremely odd that our Treasury hasn't reported buying or selling one more ounce of gold—nor have they allowed us to inventory the national treasury of gold—for over 30 years.  Very, very odd.

     As illustrated by the green dotted line on the graph above, by about A.D. 1972, our reported hoard of gold was almost exactly the same (8,500 tons) as it had been prior to the onset of WWII.  Another oddity.  To this day, our reported national gold holdings are almost identical to those of A.D. 1935.  I wonder why.

    Here's another variation on the previous graph that focuses on the loss of American gold from A.D. 1957 through A.D. 1972.  I added a blue dotted line to hypothetically extend that rate of loss (from '57 to '72) on through A.D.1978—about when our Treasury's gold holdings would've been completely depleted.

Link to Image:

   
The reasons for this extension (dotted blue line) are an interesting story reported by Mr. Radomski and an insight provided by one of today's radio show listeners that struck me as profound.

First, Mr. Radomski's story.  Speaking about claims that the Ft Knox holds no gold, Mr. Radomski wrote,

"This is no new topic. One of the first written accounts questioning the amount of gold really stored in Fort Knox appeared in 1974 in a tabloid, the National Tattler. An unnamed informant claimed that there was no gold left in Fort Knox. The sensational nature of the story, and of the newspaper, didn't contribute to the credibility of the account but it was later revealed that the informant, Louise Auchincloss Boyer, secretary to Nelson Rockefeller, had fallen out of the window of her New York apartment and died three days after the publication in the Tattler. The tragic incident resulted in controversies over the possibility that the U.S. Bullion Depository may have misstated the actual amount of gold held in Fort Knox."

     You don't need a tin-foil hat to see the conspiracy theory in that story.  A secretary to Nelson Rockefeller reports that there's no gold in Ft. Knox, and three days later she dies under violent and mysterious circumstances.  Assuming these two events (the report and the death) are linked rather than coincidental, they imply that the secretary was murdered for telling the truth—the gold was already gone from in Ft. Knox all the way back in the early 1970s.

(Incidentally, if the gold was removed from Ft. Knox, where did it go?  Who got it?  Insofar as Nelson Rockefeller's secretary died, it might follow that Rockefeller ordered her death.  How much more of a leap would be required to presume that Rockefeller also received at least some of the theoretically missing gold? )

     Now, here's the insight provided by one of my radio show listeners that struck me as profound:      Did President Nixon close the "gold window" (redemption of foreign-held paper dollars with U.S. gold at the rate of $35/ounce) in A.D. 1971 because he didn't want to bleed any more gold out of the U.S. Treasury?  Or did Nixon close the "gold window" because the gold was already all gone ?

     Closing the "gold window" and thereby reducing the paper dollar to a pure fiat currency wasn't Nixon's only option.  He could more easily have simply devalued the dollar from $35/ounce to $100/ounce—or even $200 per ounce.  Sure, such devaluation would cause an uproar in global trade, but declaring dollars to be worth only 1/100th of an ounce of gold could not be as bad as declaring dollars were worth no gold whatsoever.  If Nixon had devalued the dollar from roughly 3% ($35) of an ounce of gold to 1% ($100) or 0.5% ($200) of an ounce of gold, the dollar would at least have still been "as good as gold"—not as much gold as formerly, mind you, but still, some gold.

     Why did Nixon choose to "close the gold window" and turn the dollar into a pure fiat currency rather than simply devalue the dollar to $50, $100 or $200 per ounce of gold?  Was it because Nixon was a hard-nosed S.O.B?  Or was it because the Treasury could no longer redeem paper dollars for gold at any price for gold (not even $1,000/ounce) because the gold was already all gone?  Was the government's primary objective in "closing the gold window" to prevent the American people and the world from "looking in" and learning that the U.S. was out of gold and therefore bankrupt?

     Look back at the previous graph.

     The government admits to losing 60% of our gold from A.D. 1957 through A.D. 1972.  But, according to Mr. Radomski, we haven't had a comprehensive audit of Ft. Knox since A.D. 1953.

     Thus, we don't actually know how much gold is gone.  Ohh, you can bet that at least 60% of the former gold is gone.  Government has admitted that much gold is gone.  But, it's entirely possible that government didn't merely dispose of 60% of our gold during those 15 years.  Maybe they disposed of 70%.  Or, even 80%.  Or, even 99.9% of our national treasury of gold.  We have nothing to prove government's claim that it's kept 8,200 tons of gold since A.D.1973--except the government's word of honor.

     We do see proof every day that government has no "honor" and will, instead, lie any time it suits the government's interests.  What is the true inflation rate?  What's the true unemployment rate?  What's the true size of the National Debt?  How many of you believe government tells the truth about any of those numbers?  How many of you believe the government routinely lies?
     If you believe government routinely lies, why would you believe government's claim to have retained 8,200 tons of gold for the past 30 years—especially when government refuses to provide or even allow any independent verification of its claim?   The only reason to currently believe that government has retained 8,200 tons of gold is that a contrary belief is too fantastic to accept.     Surely, our beloved gov-co would never lie about such an important issue, right?  This parallels the "big lie" strategy first advanced by Adolph Hitler's minister of propaganda, Joseph Goebbels.  In essence, the people may not believe government's little lies, but they'll never doubt gov-co's big ones.

     Could it be that our gov-co's claim to hold 8,200 tons of gold is one of the world's biggest--and therefore most believable—lies, ever?

     If we extend the blue dotted arrow on the previous graph, we can see that at the rate gold was admittedly being lost between A.D. 1957 and 1972, all of the gold would've been gone by about A.D. 1978.

     We're told that Nelson Rockefeller's secretary revealed that all of the gold was gone in A.D. 1974.

     We know that President Nixon closed the "gold window" in A.D. 1971.

The graph, the secretary's claim and closing the gold window all reflect events in the 1970s. That's not proof, but it is a bit of coincidence.  Those three bits of "evidence" are all consistent with the possibility that all of the U.S. gold was gone sometime around A.D. 1970 (which, coincidentally, was in the midst of the Viet Nam War).

     Is it possible that the gold reportedly stored at Ft. Knox hasn't disappeared recently (as some suspect), but has been gone for over 40 years?

     Inquiring minds wanna know.

     (Finally, those of you who have tin-foil hats may want to don them while you relish yet another conspiracy theory:  Could it be that a primary purpose for the Viet Nam War was less to prevent the spread of communism, but more to conceal the theft of gold from Ft. Knox ? )





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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-11/white-house-petition-publicly-validate-us-treasurys-8100-tons-gold

( Bill Gross who recently expressed doubts as to gold being present at Fort Know  and Kyle Bass - a long time proponent of physical gold should sign this petition... Believers in sound money should sign this petition....GOP members in the House and Senate , especially the Tea Party members should sign.....Peter Schiff , Ted Butler , Turd Ferguson should sign this Petition..... put the heat on the government to defend their rationale for not clarifying - once in for all , whether US gold is present in these alleged fortresses and if so , how much and what's the quality.)


White House Petition To Publicly Assay And Validate The US Treasury's 8,100 Tons Of Gold

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In the past few weeks there has been a veritable explosion of White House petitions ranging from the bizarre to the surreal to the outright absurd, including such demands as Texas (and other southern states) seceding, deporting Piers Morgan, not deporting Piers Morgan, creating a Joe Biden sitcom, and even making a total mockery out of the US, and global, monetary system and evading the debt ceiling using a cheap, platinum coin-based parlor trick.
All of these are, for lack of a better word, a la carte distractions launched by bored American citizens, meant to evade the menial drudgery of everyday life, and, generally, reality. In short: entertainment. And, logically, virtually none have so far contained actual, actionable provisions, that stood to benefit all Americans, instead of just one half of the ideological or party split. At least not until a new petition appeared two days ago, one demanding that the administration do something that has never been done on the public record:perform an assayed public audit of all the 8,100 tons of gold owned by the US Treasury. And not just any audit, but one including "professional auditors outside of the Mint, Treasury, GAO, Inspector General and Federal Reserve system."

That is one petition, which unlike all the other gimmicky wastes of time, that we (and certainly the German people if not the Bundesbank) would wholeheartedly endorse, and one which we hope promptly crosses the 25,000 signature threshold needed for a formal response from the White House.

Sadly, the response will be one denyingwhat the people demand, but it will be interesting to see just what excuse the White House uses to shoot down an idea that is far more worthy of people's time and attention than "minting" coins whose only real symbolism is that America is flat broke.


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