http://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/17/pro-tip-obama-doesnt-want-a-deal-to-avoid-the-fiscal-cliff/
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-11-16/guest-post-ceilings-cliffs-and-tag-3-immediate-risks
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-11-16/are-equity-vigilantes-keeping-press-honest-fiscal-cliff
Hunch: Obama doesn’t want a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff
POSTED AT 8:31 AM ON NOVEMBER 17, 2012 BY JAZZ SHAW
Everyone came away from the initial summit meeting between Obama, Boehner and Reid with big smiles and a public air of confidence that Friday’s kumbaya moment would lead to The Big Deal. Call me a cynic, but I’m still not buying it. Yesterday, AP touched on a part of this story, tossing out some ideas about how everyone – particularly Democrats – might walk away with relatively clean hands if no deal is reached on the fiscal cliff this year. It’s all true, but for some of us there’s a bit more to the story. The Democrats, for their part, seem to have plenty to gain and not much to lose.
Some Democrats are pushing an unorthodox idea for coping with the “fiscal cliff”: Let the government go over, temporarily at least, to give their party more bargaining leverage for changes later on.The idea has plenty of skeptics, and the White House regards it frostily. But it illustrates the wide range of early negotiating positions being staked out by Republicans and Democrats as lawmakers gathered Tuesday for their first post-election talks on how to avoid the looming package of steep tax hikes and program cuts.But why would this work for Barack Obama? Because – as we learned the hard way on election day – he can watch the polls with the best of them. And if this train goes off the rails he has reason to believe that he won’t be left holding the bag.A new poll by Hart Research’s Geoff Garin, conducted for Americans for Tax Fairness — a group that wants the Bush-era tax cuts to end for those who earn more than $250,000 — found that a majority of voters cited changing the tax system as a key factor in their votes, and that the majority broke for President Barack Obama.The survey also found that Democrats have changed the landscape on an issue that has eluded them for years — taxes. The survey found that most want the Bush-era cuts on top earners to expire, but that Republicans will shoulder blame if all of the Bush cuts, including those on the middle class, expire because a deal can’t be reached.Basically, this works out to a win-win for Obama. Yes, he could look like the great peacemaker and try to strike some sort of grand bargain with Boehner. And if he did, he would likely get some of what he and the Democratic majority want in exchange for taking a slightly less than maximum raise on taxes for the most wealthy. But why?If he takes a very hard line and forces the showdown to a collapse in discussions, several potentially positive (for him) results are baked into the cake. He can claim that Republicans refused a “balanced approach” and it’s their fault that everyone’s taxes went up. He then has the Democrats force a vote on a bill to only lower taxes on the middle class and the poor and just dares the GOP to vote against it. (They won’t.) At this point he has the tax / revenue increase he promised without giving up a single thing. Now the negotiations start anew to talk about “spending cuts” but the GOP’s major bargaining chip is gone. Obama gets to put up a far more shallow version of cuts, and if the Republicans don’t like it, they can choose to reject the deal and just let the deficit continue to skyrocket.What Republican in their right mind could go for this? Perhaps more than we might think.The Republican Party took the rap for the debt ceiling and is under suspicion for the fiscal cliff. A new Washington Post-Pew Research poll has 53 percent of Americans ready to blame Republicans if America actually goes over the edge and only 29 percent planning to point fingers at President Barack Obama.Understanding this, thoughtful Republicans are feeling freer to risk the tea partiers’ wrath and cooperate with Democrats. The teams may disagree on much, but at least they’re now playing in the same ballpark.How does that work? Fairly simple. Just as I’ve been saying since earlier this year, if you needed congressional action to raise taxes it would never happen. But in this case, to raise tax rates all you need is for Congress to do nothing. And when you need nothing done, there’s no better crack team than Congress. And once the taxes are up, even the GOP reps who have signed the Norquist pledge are free to sign a bill that lowers taxes… even if that doesn’t apply to the wealthy. They get to remain covered on their voting record in their home districts and blame the fallout on the Democrats.Here’s the part where I reveal my secret strategy of how the GOP can thwart this plan and come out on top.Hang on… there’s somebody at the door.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-11-16/guest-post-ceilings-cliffs-and-tag-3-immediate-risks
Guest Post: Ceilings, Cliffs And TAG - 3 Immediate Risks
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 11/16/2012 19:14 -0500
- China
- Credit Crisis
- Debt Ceiling
- default
- Fail
- Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
- Fitch
- Fund Flows
- Gross Domestic Product
- Guest Post
- Medicare
- Obamacare
- Personal Income
- President Obama
- ratings
- Reality
- Recession
- Treasury Department
- Unemployment
Via Lance Roberts of Street Talk Live,
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-11-16/are-equity-vigilantes-keeping-press-honest-fiscal-cliff
Are 'Equity' Vigilantes Keeping The Press Honest On The Fiscal Cliff?
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 11/16/2012 15:27 -0500
- Bond
- Debt Ceiling
- European Central Bank
- headlines
- Market Crash
- Medicare
- President Obama
- Reality
- TARP
- Vigilantes
In the past it has been the bond market whose vigilantes had rampaged across the fields to keep policymakers honest - but something has changed with the Fed's boot on the bond market. As BofAML notes, when the Fed was too soft on inflation or the fiscal deficit was out of control, interest rates spiked higher. In our view, this has changed and today the stock market is the disciplining force for Washington. We have argued this perspective for a while - that nothing will be done until we get a stock market crash - but the press will continue to make molehills out of mountains it seems as BofAML adds, the most obvious lesson of the last week is that when Washington approaches a policy impasse, the financial press tends to signal a resolution of the crisis many times before it happens. Don’t believe it. After elections there is always conciliatory talk: no one wants to be seen as a sore loser or a gloating winner. The risk remains huge and the four hurdles to a grand bargain seem to be getting larger - no matter what the press wants us to think.
Via BofAML: Taxing Negotiations
In the past week, Democrats and Republicans have staked their initial negotiating position on the fiscal cliff. The news is not encouraging. As our regular readers know, we expect a complex negotiation process that takes many months and multiple brinkmanship moments before full resolution of the cliff. The news in the last week confirms several of our concerns.
Press fakes
Perhaps the most obvious lesson of the last week is that when Washington approaches a policy impasse, the financial press tends to signal a resolution of the crisis many times before it happens. This was evident in the first few days after the election. In his acceptance speech, the President said: “You elected us to focus on your jobs, not ours. And in the coming weeks and months, I am looking forward to reaching out and working with leaders of both parties to meet the challenges we can only solve together.” On a similar note, House Speaker Boehner said “Republicans have signaled a willingness to accept new revenue if it comes from growth and reform.” These positive statements prompted several days of optimistic headlines.
Perhaps the most obvious lesson of the last week is that when Washington approaches a policy impasse, the financial press tends to signal a resolution of the crisis many times before it happens. This was evident in the first few days after the election. In his acceptance speech, the President said: “You elected us to focus on your jobs, not ours. And in the coming weeks and months, I am looking forward to reaching out and working with leaders of both parties to meet the challenges we can only solve together.” On a similar note, House Speaker Boehner said “Republicans have signaled a willingness to accept new revenue if it comes from growth and reform.” These positive statements prompted several days of optimistic headlines.
Don’t believe it. After elections there is always conciliatory talk: no one wants to be seen as a sore loser or a gloating winner. Moreover, surveys show the US public wants politicians to start working together. However, we believe investors should look past reassuring rhetoric and focus on the underlying reality. Recent budget impasses have virtually always gone to the last minute and sometimes beyond. In the latest incarnation, the two sides have dug in their heels on income taxes and have not even started to discuss the rest of the cliff. The disagreements between the two parties run very deep and neither side wants to give ground until it has to. The stakes are particularly high in the first round of negotiations: policy steps today could set the tone for the next several years.
Wile E. Coyote moment
The recent commentary also underscores the risk of going over the cliff before a compromise is reached. As we have noted before, in the run up to the election a wide range of commentators were suggesting that going over the cliff is not such a bad idea. They argue: (1) it won’t hurt the economy if it is temporary, (2) it is a good way to extract concessions from the opponents, (3) it resets the starting point for debate (it is easier to restore tax cuts and rescind spending cuts than to do the opposite), and (4) it allows time to get a better crafted deal. In his first press conference after the election, President Obama hinted that he, too, might be willing to go over the cliff, arguing that that raising taxes on the wealthy must be the first step in any budget deal. Keep in mind that the path of least resistance is down: it is much easier for one party to block legislation, and go over the cliff, than to forge a compromise and avoid the cliff. Some people argue that the weak showing of Republicans in the elections means they will be more inclined to compromise, reducing the risk of going over the cliff.
We are not so sure. After all, the Republicans need to first sort out why they did poorly. Moreover, while the election result may have softened the Republican position, there are plenty of early signs that it has stiffened the backbone of Democrats. For example, President Obama has repeatedly argued that the election is a “very clear mandate” to raise taxes on the wealthy. By contrast, Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan said that there is no such mandate because the public also “reelected the House Republicans.” Are the two sides closer together or farther apart? It is hard to say, but clearly the gap remains very big.
The Grand Distraction
The post-election discussion underscoresthe futility of trying to get a quick “grand bargain,” putting in place a long-term plan for deficit reduction. Speaker Boehner has emphasized that any increase in tax revenues should come from broad-based reform: “in order to garner Republican support, the President must be willing to reduce spending and shore up the entitlement programs that are the primary drivers of our debt.” While tax and entitlement reform are good long term goals, are they really feasible in a few months?
A near-term grand bargain faces not just one, but four major hurdles:
- A low starting point: Neither party has even scratched the surface in presenting a feasible plan for either tax or entitlement reform, in our view. Tax reform requires tough choices around which loopholes to cut, a topic that has been carefully avoided by both parties. Medicare reform also requires tough choices around how care is rationed. Republicans have offered a voucher plan, but haven’t mentioned that it will only reduce costs if patients have large out-of-pocket expenses so they have an incentive to limit their spending. Democrats have offered to cut payments to providers, but without any impact on service. The American public needs to be educated about the true options it faces.
- Bi-partisan cooperation: As was clear in the 1986 tax reform, getting complicated and contentious reforms enacted is very hard without true cooperation, particularly with relatively evenly divided government. The leaders of the two parties have to stand together and fight the special interests.
3. High complexity: The US tax code is extremely complicated and any attempt to change it creates many winners and losers. It has big impacts on the many special interests with tax advantages. It also redistributes income across not just income classes but between states (ironically, high-income people in the “Blue states” that voted for the Obama have the most to lose since those states tend to have high mortgages and high state and local taxes). If anything, Medicare reform is even more difficult since it involves life and death choices and there are fundamental disagreements about the relative role of markets and administration in controlling costs.
4. A sizable gap in view: The two parties strongly disagree about how tax reform impacts the economy. Republicans argue that most of the revenue from tax reform will come from creating a stronger economy. In the past week, President Obama countered: "What I will not do is to have a process that is vague, that says we're gonna sorta, kinda raise revenue through dynamic scoring or closing loopholes that have not been identified."We agree that it is important to start laying the ground work for tax and entitlement reform, but we also believe it is also important to get the sequencing right. First, dismantle the fiscal cliff, and then start negotiations on the longer term solutions.
Stock market “vigilantes”
Historically the bond market has been a disciplining force for policymakers. When the Fed was too soft on inflation or the fiscal deficit was out of control, interest rates spiked higher. In our view, this has changed and today the stock market is the disciplining force for Washington. Stocks have generally endorsed Fed policy. We estimate that stock prices rose a cumulative 15% in the past three years in response to Fed announcements or actions. While some investors have misgivings about what the Fed is doing, the overall market likes it. By contrast, the stock market is giving a clear no-confidence vote to fiscal policymakers. This was particularly clear when the TARP bailout plan failed to pass and at the end of the debt ceiling debate.
Today, the stock market “vigilantes” are gathering again. In early September we argued that “there is a high risk of a risk-off trade in the markets after [the Fed meeting on] September 13.” We argued that market focus would shift from Fed and ECB easing to fiscal policy risks. In the event the Fed meeting did mark a turning point in the markets, and with the election over and the fiscal cliff taking center stage, the downward pressure has accelerated (Chart 1). This weakness has occurred despite better news on the economy and an unremarkable earnings season.
The fiscal cliff is unlikely to be resolved quickly or in a completely benign fashion.Our advice:
“fasten your seatbelts and remain seated until Co-pilots Obama and Boehner turn off the fasten seatbelt sign.”
In particular, we would be leery about a big air pocket in late December, when our political pilots decide whether sharply drop altitude or not.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-11-16/todays-fiscal-cliff-compromise-moment-brought-you-congressional-short-squeeze-incept
Today's "Fiscal Cliff Compromise" Moment Brought To You By The Congressional Short Squeeze Inception Team
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 11/16/2012 14:53 -0500
Once again the market falls for the politicians' snake oil (as we explainedbefore). Unconvinced? This is what none other than "Fiscal Cliff compromise is imminent" photo op participant Nancy Pelosi said moments later to the WSJ:
Ms. Pelosi said. "I was focusing on how we send a message of confidence to consumers, to the markets in the short run, too."
And there you have it from the horse's mouth: absolutely nothing of actual substance in today's presser which was completely hollow of anything remotely resembling an actual compromise, but merely the same type of Euro-propaganda we have grown to loath and despise for the past 3 years, where a flashing red headline was supposed to generate a short squeeze. It succeeded.There is one open question: did Nancy Pelosi's multi-millionaire investor husband Paul Pelosi know ahead of time what the announcement would say, and did he buy any securities in hopes of a "short run" gain?
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